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Trump attacks Ted Cruz for not supporting ethanol subsidies
The American Thinker ^ | December 12, 2015 | Ed Straker

Posted on 12/11/2015 11:57:00 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
If Trump needs to sell out to Big Corn in order to win the primary, I'm willing to forgive him. Just hope that doesn't become his SOP.

Voting for hopes is a bad risk, especially pinning conservative hopes on someone with a clear 26-year history of left-moderate politics and who only joined the Republican party six years ago, when it became the party of McCain/Romney.

You "hope" it doesn't become Trump's SOP -- from where I'm sitting, probabilities are that it already IS his SOP.

181 posted on 12/12/2015 11:42:29 AM PST by Finny (Voting "against" is a wish. Be ready to own what you vote for.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
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We see your diversion:

People don't eat Ethanol corn (at least hopefully not, it is GMO!)
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182 posted on 12/12/2015 11:43:13 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

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>> “If Trump needs to sell out to Big Corn in order to win the primary, I’m willing to forgive him.” <<

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Arthur, you used to be such a straight up guy...

Disappointing to say the least. :o(


183 posted on 12/12/2015 11:45:38 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Ethanol, on the other hand, does require big government subsidies, because it is highly uneconomical. Ethanol is much more expensive than oil and gas and, gallon for gallon, produces much less energy than gasoline. That's why the government has to hand over billions in subsidies to big agri-businesses to keep it going. And that's also why the government has to force oil companies to blend ethanol in with their fuels.

All of that is true.

Additionally, ethanol actually acts as a corrosive on car engines. It slowly degrades car parts over time.

Yeah, not so much. Unless the engine/vehicle is old and pre-alcohol fuel. Then, mostly rubber parts suffer. Any corrosion comes from water.

...without government coercion, oil companies wouldn't do it, and the price of gasoline would be substantially lower than it is now.

I recently drove through a midwestern state where you can buy either straight regular, or ethanol blend. The straight gasoline was quite a bit more expensive.

184 posted on 12/12/2015 11:47:17 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Why is that such a problem?

Good question.

185 posted on 12/12/2015 11:49:05 AM PST by Fundamentally Fair (Pictionary at the Rorschach's tonight!)
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To: editor-surveyor

Some are more moonbatty than others.

The prominent of the worse of the worse of the pollsters are WSJ, Bloomberg, Quinnipiac, Monmouth, PPP, cBS and a few others, and leftist university small time pollsters. They tell us who they fear and pick and choose their times to cook their polling data.


186 posted on 12/12/2015 11:49:30 AM PST by Red Steel
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To: eartick
With respect, Donald Trump is nobody's "best candidate." He is, however, the best and most charismatic showman -- so good at performing and persuading that he has conservatives willing to ignore a 26-year history of left-leaning, government-friendly "moderate" to socialist politics.

There's only ONE conservative candidate in the running worth voting for, and that's Ted Cruz. Donald Trump, who is actually a third-rate billionaire in the full context of America's best, would be a big and constantly embarrassing mistake for Republicans and America, the laughing stock of the world where Republicans think a self-publicized hot-headed patriotic celebrity CEO and TV host isn't going to be anything but a joke in the White House.

187 posted on 12/12/2015 11:49:57 AM PST by Finny (Voting "against" is a wish. Be ready to own what you vote for.)
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To: editor-surveyor

It has been for decades (See: Dekalb Hybrid Seed Corn)

And that’s not a diversion, it’s a fact. There are better arguments than that old crap.


188 posted on 12/12/2015 11:50:43 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: VideoDoctor
I'm not an ethanol advocate but I'd prefer to continue to have it rather than have more Americans out of work.

Well, at least you're honest about being a big government type.

189 posted on 12/12/2015 11:50:46 AM PST by Fundamentally Fair (Pictionary at the Rorschach's tonight!)
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To: County Agent Hank Kimball
Funny crop of conservatives we’re growing these days.

Amazing, isn't it?

190 posted on 12/12/2015 11:55:09 AM PST by Fundamentally Fair (Pictionary at the Rorschach's tonight!)
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To: editor-surveyor

You are another one on the payroll, I am sure.


191 posted on 12/12/2015 11:55:25 AM PST by samtheman (I dont use apostrophes. I do support Trump.)
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To: samtheman

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Pathetic!
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192 posted on 12/12/2015 12:00:10 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Cold Heat
That's sorta absurd....because eventually, by this coming summer there will be only one.

When there is one.. let's say it's Cruz.

How has Cruz been treated in the Senate in the last few years?

He has been diminished at every opportunity by the GOP establishment.

And you're telling me that's ALL going to stop if he's nominated?

You on somethin'?

193 posted on 12/12/2015 12:02:23 PM PST by VideoDoctor
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To: Red Steel

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Well, the left’s spokesgal (Hitlery) has come right out and told us that Cruz is the guy they fear.

So much for all that (non-existing) doubt.
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194 posted on 12/12/2015 12:03:32 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

Actually they tell you who they want to face.


195 posted on 12/12/2015 12:04:29 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

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I have little difficulty buying non-GMO corn locally.

True that it is wide spread though.


196 posted on 12/12/2015 12:05:50 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Red Steel

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Like dog poop.

Trump is the guy the commissioned to block Cruz last spring.
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197 posted on 12/12/2015 12:07:18 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
Which proves that he is the sole candidate with moral integrity, and understanding of the disaster that Corn for Fuel has shown itself to be.

That stance will possibly win him the battle but he'll lose the war.

Voters in Iowa that have jobs as the result of Ethanol are NOT going to vote to take away their own paycheck.. not to mention the state which derives tax dollars from ethanol.

198 posted on 12/12/2015 12:07:19 PM PST by VideoDoctor
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To: editor-surveyor

You call a piece fact that was demolished by another poster on this thread. The obvious explanation fits with your obsessive posting history: on the payroll.


199 posted on 12/12/2015 12:11:16 PM PST by samtheman (I dont use apostrophes. I do support Trump.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Everyone needs to tone down the rhetoric just a bit.

Hilarious. Tone down the rhetoric against Trump? Trump and his supporters bash every other candidate, but we have to wear kid gloves when it comes to Trump? Not likely.

200 posted on 12/12/2015 12:11:56 PM PST by Starstruck (I'm usually sarcastic. Deal with it.)
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