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Watch Out for ObamaCare Tax Forms Next Year
IBD ^ | 12/14/2015 | BY PAUL KATZEFF, INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY

Posted on 12/14/2015 6:52:48 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: RoadGumby

I disagree.

Healthcare in America is prohibitively expensive. Absurdly so.

As long as that is the case, everyone who wants insurance, deserves insurance.

Everyone.

I didn’t say it should be free. I have never said that. But Americans deserve to be protected abuse by gougers in healthcare.

Yes they exist.


21 posted on 12/14/2015 7:25:24 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html)
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To: CitizenUSA; All

Follow-up.
How do you fine someone that has no job, no property, no assets and is spongeing off society?
That person can still get treatment a hospitals.
Martin County, Florida.
http://www.nytimes.com/2002/08/25/us/hospitals-feeling-strain-from-illegal-immigrants.html?pagewanted=all


22 posted on 12/14/2015 7:25:58 AM PST by GOYAKLA ( Pick-up the pace, I'm eighty!)
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To: A CA Guy

I agree. Not only are there many people who will not work to pay for health insurance, there are many millions more who work but simply don’t have the skills/capacity to earn enough to pay for it. Then there are those who could possibly afford it but prefer to spend their resources on something else.


23 posted on 12/14/2015 7:27:27 AM PST by CitizenUSA (Proverbs 14:34 Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a disgrace to any people.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

BULLSHIT.
I HAD adequate coverge for MY needs until obamacare made that plan illegal.
Go to hell with your socialist crap.


24 posted on 12/14/2015 7:29:24 AM PST by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Insurance IS the gouger. A thinking person would see this. Yet you want more. Just like a lib.


25 posted on 12/14/2015 7:29:37 AM PST by RoadGumby (This is not where I belong, Take this world and give me Jesus.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Well, then maybe a good chunk of the 95 million not working should swallow their pride and go get a lower wage job and buy it?
No way on Gods green earth should people get benefits for anything beyond 6 months unless they are massively disabled or elderly.

We should not be paying to raise the families of growing single parent homes.
Why give cell phones and endless free stuff.
Workfare!

I paid over 35k in taxes last year.
How about some of those 95 million not working after 6 months starting to on some days do free stuff to pay for themselves for those who pay taxes?
They can hand wash my cars, clean my house, scrub the toilets so at least people paying get SOMETHING out of this.

26 posted on 12/14/2015 7:30:22 AM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

“Everyone needs to be insured. Everyone.”

You also say you don’t support free coverage, so how do you propose to insure everyone? Do you conceive of some other way to do that (not free but all covered) short of single payer?


27 posted on 12/14/2015 7:30:48 AM PST by CitizenUSA (Proverbs 14:34 Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a disgrace to any people.)
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To: hoosierham

I’m sticking with my position.

I have (always) had insurance. I have insurance now.

But if Obamacare hadn’t changed the rules, I would have lost my coverage for something when I lost my job. That is something which would have been quite expensive, potentially, at some time in the future.

Despite, keeping my insurance active.

That is no longer the case. I am grateful for the change, and I strongly support that bit of Obamacare. In fact, I compliment democrats for changing that. Big time.

Mind you I have always had insurance, Always. But this change was very important.

It is not socialist. I have never been a socialist.

But we need coverage which actually covers people.

Every member.


28 posted on 12/14/2015 7:36:05 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html)
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To: CitizenUSA

And then there are many first generation people coming here working non-taxed jobs in the service industry living large on untaxed income and government benefits.


29 posted on 12/14/2015 7:36:57 AM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

And what about the health care/hospitals overcharging and downright cheating. My son went in for a broken finger and part of the bill included costs for crutches (which, of course, he didn’t need and wasn’t provided). Ask for an aspirin in a hospital and see how much you are charged. Many hospitals are just as guilty of gouging as the new Obamacare laws. Obamacare needs to be totally revoked, hospitals/health care facilities need to be more closely monitored for financial abuse, there should be lots of low pay health care clinics opened for minor medical problems for which you would be turned away at a hospital emergency room (for flu victims, people who need stitches, monitoring, etc.)to free up emergency rooms for real patients. That might be a real overhaul and a move in the right direction.


30 posted on 12/14/2015 7:39:04 AM PST by kiltie65
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

It is not socialist. I have never been a socialist.

YOU LIE. Using taxation to provide services IS Socialist. And anti-freedom.


31 posted on 12/14/2015 7:41:53 AM PST by RoadGumby (This is not where I belong, Take this world and give me Jesus.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Health “insurance” was whacked out before commie care exactly BECAUSE government was already too involved.

E.g., people don’t use health “insurance” like insurance. They use it (and perceive it) as some kind third party coupon discount.

Insurance is to meant mitigate risk by providing a financial guarantee in the event the risk is realized. When you have insurance, you don’t “want” to make a claim.

Imagine using auto insurance for fuel fill ups and oil changes. That’s what health “insurance” was before commie care.

Also, before commie care, the actual consumer had little involvement in the market itself, other than being a consumer.

Folks go to the doc w/no idea what anything will cost. In fact, docs wouldn’t (and still don’t) provide you options for care because it wasn’t covered under someone’s policy.

When you get your car worked on, you pay for an estimate first, get diagnosed, and told what expected repairs are. Then you decide what to do and where to go for that service.

Find something else wrong along the way? Another estimate.

That’s what a trip to the doc office should be like.

In the eighties states mandated that routine care, like checkups, be incorporated into policies. This was the first largest cost driver.

The number of claims increase several orders of magnitude and, as such, insurance companies need more people and equipment to process.

Get gov out of it entirely, except to combat fraud, including when companies try to screw the insured by claiming their not covered for a big claim when they are.


32 posted on 12/14/2015 7:42:04 AM PST by fruser1
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Well, more people are on Medicaid. ;-)

I no longer have health care insurance. It began the same day the ana came into force.

What is interesting is how few people know about the 8.05% exemption and there are NO penalties for not paying the penalty if you are liable.


33 posted on 12/14/2015 7:43:47 AM PST by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Simple fix: disconnect it from your employer like car insurance and allow companies to sell across state lines.


34 posted on 12/14/2015 7:45:25 AM PST by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: fruser1

Well I agree with you.

I don’t think it will happen, but I agree. However until government isn’t requiring massive amounts of things in healthcare (which is a fact of life, in America) then they need to be fair and protect everyone.

It is either open and free (including licensing, schools, all of the things which make healthcare so expensive now) or we need protection. All of us.

One or the other. Either it is free as a system. Or else everyone is protected.

I’m 100% ok with either.

I am not ok with what we had. That was just monstrous.


35 posted on 12/14/2015 7:46:01 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Want=/=need


36 posted on 12/14/2015 7:46:15 AM PST by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: cuban leaf; Cringing Negativism Network

He doesn’t want a ‘fix’, he wants freestuff, like a gibsmedat.


37 posted on 12/14/2015 7:46:43 AM PST by RoadGumby (This is not where I belong, Take this world and give me Jesus.)
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To: RoadGumby

No I want healthcare which everyone can afford.

Everyone.

What we have now is a complete mess.


38 posted on 12/14/2015 7:48:12 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

So you like the lower cost of your insurance being paid by folks like me because you need it?
If you can’t afford to eat out you don’t eat out.
If you can’t afford to make loan payments you lose stuff.
If you lost your insurance you always had two choices:
1: continue to pay from savings if you were smart enough to save by living frugally.
2: use the poverty welfare insurance every state has for the poor that is free to those down and out.

There never should have been anything in place that gets you more than medical unless you fully paid for it.

Yes, really good insurance cost money. When I pay $18000 next year I have bottom of the barrel bronze shit meanwhile those not paying will get plans 6 times better than me for free or $30.
F them IMO. Want great stuff, don’t stand on a bread line to find it.

THOU SHALL NOT COVET THY NEIGHBORS GOODS


39 posted on 12/14/2015 7:49:04 AM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy

Healthcare is not like food, clothing, unlike almost any other expense.

It is EXPENSIVE.

And everyone needs it. That is a fact.


40 posted on 12/14/2015 7:50:37 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html)
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