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To: exDemMom

You are actually doubling down in your inane analogy?

I also recommend a refresher course in cell culture and in basic A&P to address your difficulty in understanding the difference between cells and tissue.

Look, you keep avoiding the issue which is it has been two years and by now according to you and others her body ought to have fully rotted away.

You were wrong.


58 posted on 12/26/2015 10:27:28 AM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: ifinnegan
You are actually doubling down in your inane analogy?

The "inane analogy" is meant to convey an extremely important point, which you seem intent on avoiding. It is that biological life is merely the mechanical and chemical functions of collections of certain kinds of organic molecules. Biological life alone is not sufficient for a person to exist. A person is much, much more than the mere physical function of molecules.

I also recommend a refresher course in cell culture and in basic A&P to address your difficulty in understanding the difference between cells and tissue.

If you are knowledgeable about these subjects, then you know that I have not said anything incorrect. Also, I speak as a person who has long experience with cell/tissue culture: people who work in the field do not make much of a distinction, since what is a cell but a unit of a tissue? People who work in the field know that cells placed in flasks spontaneously take on properties of tissues: lung cells form impermeable membranes, connective tissue cells form filamentous structures, muscle cells contract, heart cells beat, nerve cells conduct signals and form connections, etc. And, despite laboratory cells' spontaneous behavior as tissues, human cells/tissues are not human beings. FYI, we scientists use the words "cell" and "tissue" interchangeably in many contexts.

Look, you keep avoiding the issue which is it has been two years and by now according to you and others her body ought to have fully rotted away.

I pointed out then that certain things were happening, and I have no reason to think that they have not proceeded as far as possible under the circumstances. The burden of proof is on you to present evidence that the body has NOT deteriorated to the point where toxic by-products of decay have poisoned the heart and lungs to the point of non-operability. As I keep saying, there is no proof that Jahi's body is still hooked to the machines--there has been no independently verifiable report of her status for over a year now. The family was supposed to return her body to the coroner in Oakland once the heart ceased beating, but they could have defied that order and had her buried or cremated in order to keep the donations going. I don't know, and neither do you.

I will say that I have been distracted for the last couple of hours looking at whatever information I can find on Jahi Mcmath. I did not find any news of her current condition, although I did find comments on various websites expressing the opinion that Jahi is in a deep freeze somewhere. I was looking for the testimony of a nurse who cared for Jahi at Children's hospital in Oakland, who described that Jahi was passing sloughed off intestinal lining before leaving that hospital; that alone indicates that the body was decaying. I did not find the testimony, but that does not mean I can't find it again. What I did find is interesting: a discussion of a legal document that may or may not have been filed in early 2015. That document was written in the first section as a wrongful injury complaint, but later switches to a wrongful death complaint. Goodness.

You were wrong.

If I am wrong on something, please specify exactly what it is.

65 posted on 12/26/2015 1:46:23 PM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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