[[But nearly every instant a CO2 molecule is heated so the temperature keeps rising until equilibrium.]]
And didn’t you say In a previous post that equilibrium doesn’t occur because of DTL?
[[Where is the evidence that CO2 captures all ir photons?
That was a mistake. It absorbs them all only within certain bands]]
Also- Do these bands cover the globe like a blanket? Or are they just local spots around the globe? IF so, how can these isolated bands separated by large distances capture all IR photons? Wouldn’t the areas where there are no bands allow the photons to blow right on by out into space? (I don’t anything about this stuff- I’m just asking for the sake of clarity, and to show if possible that the amount of CO2 isn’t large enough to cause any kind of appreciable warming)
Does CO2 form a continuous blanket around the globe? (Not sure how it could if CO2 comprises only 0.04% of the atmosphere- it seems to me the atmosphere would either contain a majority of areas that are CO2 free, OR the ‘blanket’ would be so thin as to be just a molecule or two or so thick, and in such a case, saturation would be a huge problem when it comes to capturing ‘all’ ir photons- Every nano second the layer is saturated would mean a nano second ir photons have nothing impeding their rise toward space- and then- once again- you would have the fact that the cO2 molecules would reabsorbs ones it already has meaning even more ‘new’ ir photons would blow right on past the saturated CO2 molecules unimpeded- uncaptured-
and rally though- all of this is moot- because once again we’re talking so little CO2 that it doesn’t amount to a hill of beans really-
If you go to this website, watch the first video- around the 5 min mark it begins talking about SW and LW- short wave (from the sun) and long wave (From IR)- and how the rise in SW corresponds with drop in LW- the direct opposite of what all the climate models predicted- This fella, Spencer, who worked for NASA Satellite monitoring systems, has shown that the earth’s climate and oceans warming is a direct result not of CO2, but rather of cloud cover- the peaks and valleys over a 30 year period in the second video show a direct correlation between rising temps and lower cloud cover, falling temps and more cloud cover- the less cloud cover, the more of the sin’s energy that hits the earth- the rises had nothing to do with atmospheric CO2 accumulation - He even submitted his report to two of the leading IPCC scientists because he was criticizing their work specifically, and they both met with him and told Him basically ‘holy cow, you are right- we were wrong- our papers were wrong’
UIt’s an interesting listen-
http://a-sceptical-mind.com/why-the-ipcc-climate-model-is-wrong
I would not call it a blanket but CO2 molecules end up evenly distributed around the planet.
Wouldn’t the areas where there are no bands allow the photons to blow right on by out into space?
I think the satellite sensors show the IR notch everywhere around the planet. But there will be different depths for that notch depending on surface temperature and weather. For the latter, the water vapor and clouds could absorb all the photons where the notch would be leaving none for CO2 to absorb. I think the important thing missing from my description of that radiance diagram is that is a "clear sky" (and mainly dry air) radiance diagram. But due to even distribution of CO2, there is always some CO2 where there is clear sky and dry air, and in those locations a CO2 notch would be visible in a radiance measurement.
Every nano second the layer is saturated would mean a nano second ir photons have nothing impeding their rise toward space
A CO2 molecule with extra vibrational energy gets rid of that extra energy within about 1/10 ns to a non-CO2 molecule. At that point it is ready to grab another IR photon.
all of this is moot- because once again we’re talking so little CO2 that it doesn’t amount to a hill of beans really-
With 10^22 molecule of non-CO2 per liter and 0.04% or 10^18 CO2 molecules in the same liter, there are a lot of chances to intercept photons. Granted the molecules are tiny, but the calculations show that photons are intercepted within 100 feet or so. (Again: a couple caveats, the photons have to be the right frequency otherwise they pass through. Also as you pointed out the CO2 molecule has to be in a lower energy state in order to intercept and go to a higher energy state)
I will watch the video soon.
Another notable thing that he didn't mention is that the bump in global temperature from the rainfall event was 0.3 to 0.5C That's decades of theoretical CO2 warming in just 2-3 weeks. It shows that CO2 warming is trivial.