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To: Bob434
onsider an indoor football stadium- with it's many 1000's of seats. Now picture just one of those seats among the many 1000's representing CO2 in the atmosphere-

A better analogy would be a stadium with billions or trillions of seats. Throwing a ball out through the seats would lead to at least one CO2 seat intercepting the ball. The atmosphere has so many CO2 molecules that every single outgoing IR photon hits a CO2 molecule within 100 feet or so. That CO2 molecule absorbs the IR and nearly instantly transfers it to the surrounding molecules. Because of the CO2, the entire atmosphere is warmer.

49 posted on 12/27/2015 4:34:27 AM PST by palmer (Net "neutrality" = Obama turning the internet over to foreign enemies)
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To: palmer

[[The atmosphere has so many CO2 molecules that every single outgoing IR photon hits a CO2 ]]

‘so many CO2 molecules’ In the atmosphere? Only 0.00136% of the atmosphere has any CO2 molecules in it due to man- it contains only 0.04% due to all sources- that means 99.96% of the atmosphere doesn’t have any- surely there are far far more IR photons than CO2 molecules-

And here’s something else to consider- the heat rises, gets trapped by CO2 and as you say ‘almost instantly releases it to surrounding molecules’ (I’m assuming you mean atmospheric molecules) And I say “Yeah? So what? Heat is doing what it does- rising into atmosphere- the only thing now is that it BARELY gets delayed by seconds because a very small portion of it gets trapped briefly by CO2 then released almost instantly- The fact is the heat is going skyward whether there is CO2 or not-

There is NO thick blanket of CO2 holding heat indefinitely causing an electric blanket like effect on the earth

You have never explained how just 0.00136% of our atmosphere is aBLE to capture and back radiate enough heat to cause global climate change- How is it possible?

You analogy about the stadium is wrong- there aren’t trillions of seats of CO2 in the stadium one 0.00136% of the stadium would have a CO2 seat in it- the rest of the seats would not be CO2 seats- so your analogy actually illustrates the silliness of the idea that mans’ CO2 could be causing climate change- you throw trillions of baseballs into the stadium, and only a few of htem will wind up in the one CO2 seat- The rest will not because there are simply not enough CO2 seats to capture enough baseballs to cause any kind of change within the stadium (assuming for he sake of argument that those baseballs that get caught in CO2 seat are heated up slightly) The vastness of the stadium will be unaffected by those few baseballs that are slightly warmer (not the best analogy, but it shows the futility of trying to exclaim that man is causing climate change- or that CO2 for that matter is-)

[[Because of the CO2, the entire atmosphere is warmer.]]

Sorry, but this is nonsense- The heat was rising anyways- (and incoming from the sun) what insignificant amount of CO2 there is does absolutely nothing to change how warm the atmosphere is, and it certainly has nothing to do with how warm surface temps are back on earth There is no way 0.00136% of the atmosphere can even capture enough heat to cause 99.96% of the atmosphere to ‘heat up’ beyond what it normally does naturally


70 posted on 12/27/2015 10:30:19 AM PST by Bob434
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To: palmer

Just read a study last week that showed that co2 actually causes global cooling. Now what?!


74 posted on 12/27/2015 12:21:53 PM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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