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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Thanks for the research. Having been raised in a cult, I am very leery of any religious figure saying anything that isn’t in my Bible.

I am especially leery of any religion tied into a political movement or a political movement tied into religion. Our FF were equally concerned I believe because they included the First Amendment in the Constitution, i.e. Freedom of Religion.

This is a large country with many beliefs. They are equally protected. Anytime one religion seeks political power based on their superiority, disaster will follow.


87 posted on 01/03/2016 6:05:18 AM PST by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: Duchess47
This is a large country with many beliefs. They are equally protected. Anytime one religion seeks political power based on their superiority, disaster will follow.

If you replace Religion with Denomination their beliefs make much more sense.

John Quincy Adams on Islam

In the seventh century of the Christian era, a wandering Arab of the lineage of Hagar, the Egyptian, combining the powers of transcendent genius, with the preternatural energy of a fanatic, and the fraudulent spirit of an impostor, proclaimed himself as a messenger from Heaven, and spread desolation and delusion over an extensive portion of the earth.

Adopting from the sublime conception of the Mosaic law, the doctrine of one omnipotent God; he connected indissolubly with it, the audacious falsehood, that he was himself his prophet and apostle. Adopting from the new Revelation of Jesus, the faith and hope of immortal life, and of future retribution, he humbled it to the dust, by adapting all the rewards and sanctions of his religion to the gratification of the sexual passion. He poisoned the sources of human felicity at the fountain, by degrading the condition of the female sex, and the allowance of polygamy; and he declared undistinguishing and exterminating war, as a part of his religion, against all the rest of mankind. THE ESSENCE OF HIS DOCTRINE WAS VIOLENCE AND LUST: TO EXALT THE BRUTAL OVER THE SPIRITUAL PART OF HUMAN NATURE.

Between these two religions, thus contrasted in their characters, a war of twelve hundred years has already raged. That war is yet flagrant; nor can it cease but by the extinction of that imposture, which has been permitted by Providence to prolong the degeneracy of man. While the merciless and dissolute dogmas of the false prophet shall furnish motives to human action, there can never be peace upon earth, and good will towards men. The hand of Ishmael will be against every man, and every man's hand against him. It is, indeed, amongst the mysterious dealings of God, that this delusion should have been suffered for so many ages, and during so many generations of human kind, to prevail over the doctrines of the meek and peaceful and benevolent Jesus (Blunt, 1830, 29:269, capitals in orig.).

151 posted on 01/03/2016 6:56:49 AM PST by itsahoot (Anyone receiving a Woo! Woo! for President has never won anything after the award.)
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To: Duchess47

Wise words indeed. I can see that they come from experience. I’ve done a lot of research on various cults because of the involvement of someone very dear to me in one of them. To this day, there has been nothing I can do to counteract the damage.

Bless you.


164 posted on 01/03/2016 7:07:45 AM PST by Aleya2Fairlie
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