Cruz, Rubio Presidential Eligibility Challenged In FL, VT, and MD!

The Marshall Report ^ | January 7th, 2016 | Dianne Marshall

[PJBankard]

See the below link. It provides all the details on what must be done when a US citizen has a child born outside of the US for the child to be considered a NBC. The question is whether Ted Cruz's mother filed the relevant paperwork and met the stipulations within. This is the information that is sealed and no one has access to.

http://travel.state.gov/content/passports/en/abroad/events-and-records/birth.html

[Mariner]

"Cruz gets elected. "

It could be worse.

It could be that a state, or more than one state will rule favorably on a Democratic lawsuit that denies Cruz access to the ballot in the general election.

Thereby electing the democrat by default.

[libbylu]

Thanks so much. As you can see I was mistaken in thinking others would like to see how so easily accessible it was.

[JayGalt]

I think you missed what the poster meant. He said Cruz posted his Canadian Birth Certificate which you linked to and his renunciation of Canadian citizenship in 2014.

He/she was referring to other documentation that Cruz would have confirming that he was an American citizen at birth. There has been discussion above about the several forms this documentation could have taken (Consular forms mostly) but there would have had to be an application, approval by the consulate or another US Agency, and the resulting documentation since a child with only a Canadian birth certificate would not be able to get a US passport, ss card etc.

[Mariner]

"So if your intent is to imply that Cruz is going around having the court lock up his records, you are factually incorrect. "

I am not, but it appears as though the author is.

Certainly Cruz himself could release those records any time he chooses, and I hope he does soon.

[Mariner]

The Congressional Research Service said in 2011 that there is a legitimate legal question as to whether a Citizen born abroad is NBC.

http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R42097.pdf

[StormEye]

"Obama remains in office indefinitely as the Federal courts play football with this."

When Obam's term of office ends, it's over. Obama cannot remain in office as President. If there is a problem with Cruz qualifying as President the House of Representatives can appoint someone to act as President until Cruz or someone does qualify. Mostly likely it would be Cruz's VP running mate who would be appointed to act as President until Cruz qualifies.

[TigersEye]

Both of them should make ridiculous Adobe Photoshop birth certificates
and put them on a website as a joke.

[Duchess47]

If it makes no difference to you that your candidate cannot or will not provide proof of eligibility for the office of President, you are the one engaged in a personality cult. Any responsible citizen would require that of their candidate for president.

[VanDeKoik]

“No one with clout has said anything but he is natural born.”

Commentators online giving opinions =/= “it’s settled”, no more than Obama just saying he was.

[DiogenesLamp]

Just want to mentioned that when I predicted this over a year ago, some folks got very upset about it. They didn't want to hear it. It happens a lot.

You and me both, brother.

[justlittleoleme]

But if you read that very paper it says at the conclusion...

The constitutional history, the nearly unanimous consensus of legal and constitutional scholars, and the consistent, relevant case law thus indicate that every child born in and subject to the jurisdiction of the United States (that is, not children of diplomatic personnel representing a foreign nation or military troops in hostile occupation), is a native born U.S. citizen and thus a “natural born Citizen” eligible to be President under the qualifications clause of the Constitution, regardless of the nationality or citizenship of one’s parents. The legal issues regarding “natural born” citizenship and birth within the United States, without regard to lineage or ancestral bloodline, have been well settled in this country for more than a century, and such concepts date back to, and even pre-date, the founding of the nation. The weight of more recent federal cases, as well as the majority of scholarship on the subject, also indicates that the term “natural born citizen” would most likely include, as well as native born citizens, those born abroad to U.S. citizen-parents, at least one of whom had previously resided in the United States, or those born abroadto one U.S. citizen parent who, prior to the birth, had met the requirements of federal law for physical presence in the country

http://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R42097.pdf

[StormEye]

"Wasn’t Rubio born here to legal residents?"

It doesn't matter.
Rubio is not constitutionally qualified to be President.
Neither of his parents were US citizens at the time of his birth. Rubio should not be permitted to run for the office of President and frankly his attempt should be slapped down hard.

[jennychase]

People who verified online certificate of Obama , Please verify this certificate also. Long and short B’Certificate.

[South Dakota]

No own denies that Cruz is a US citizen.
It’s his natural born citizenship that is in question.
It has been argued here endlessly

The Democrats don’t care.
It’s an avenue for them to attack Cruz

[VanDeKoik]

“in the meantime, most of his supporters on FR are rude, arrogant, idiotic, illogical, and just fantasy fan gurls. Even the bois act like gurls”

No that would be the Cruz people, whom now are lashing out at everyone else because their candidate left a big old bomb in the middle of his campaign and somehow expected it to go unnoticed.

And I’ll watch it with calling guys around here “girls”. I’m ready to ask the site owners to start waving the banhammer if some of you Cruz people can’t lay off the name-calling.

[Mariner]

"no more than Obama just saying he was"

Ted Cruz could clear up his Documentary proof of US Citizenship in a single hour if he chose to do so.

The question of whether he is a Natural Born Citizen may take addition adjudication.

[sitetest]

Such a document might not even exist. It isn’t mandatory to complete one. If one exists, I imagine it’s a private document and not subject to an ordinary FOIA request. If such a document exists, folks will have to ask Sen. Cruz directly to see it. I recommend saying “please.”

Sen. Cruz has a copy of his mother’s birth certificate proving her American birth. He states categorically that she never took Canadian citizenship. How do you prove a negative?

Sadly, this is all a lot of FUD produce by trump and other treasonous enemies of the Republic.

[ASA Vet]

Donald John Trump

Born June 14, 1946 in Queens, New York, NY (Jus Soli)

Parents were
Frederick Christ Trump, born October 11, 1905 in Queens, NY, died June 1999 in Queens, NY
Mary Ann MacLeod, born May 10, 1912 in SCOTLAND, died August 7, 2000 in Queens, NY. Arrived in US October 5, 1935. Naturalized as a US Citizen March 10, 1942.

Both parents were US Citizens at the time of his birth (Jus Sanguinis)

Donald Trump was born in the US to two US Citizen parents so is a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN

[Norm Lenhart]

It’s amazing how easy it is to predict the future when one refuses to hide their head in the sand. I don’t know how anyone could have thought the liberals would not bring this up.

I said we had to be ready when it happened. Now here we are with it happening and no one is ready.