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Is Canadian-born Ted Cruz eligible to be president? ‘No question’ says Senator Orrin Hatch
Fox ^ | 1/8/16 | Matt Roth

Posted on 01/07/2016 5:57:26 PM PST by VinL

Edited on 01/07/2016 7:04:50 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

Texas Senator Ted Cruz doesn't have the endorsement of Utah's senior Republican Senator, but he just got an important legal opinion that could be more valuable.

Senator Orrin Hatch is the senior Republican and President Pro-Tem of the Senate. He's also a long-time member and former chair of the Judiciary Committee, putting him as close to the federal judiciary as any legislator in Washington.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: canadian; cruz; ineligible; naturalborncitizen; tds; vinl
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To: xzins

No. And I wouldn’t be Italian generally if I were. Unless Italian citizenship were passed down to me from a parent.


41 posted on 01/07/2016 7:39:49 PM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: VinL

Specialties in law are fairly focused. Constitutional law is not immigration law.


42 posted on 01/07/2016 7:41:30 PM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: VinL; Duchess47

http://travel.state.gov/content/passports/en/abroad/events-and-records/birth.html

He showed his Canadian birth certificate.

Where is his CRBA? See link above.


43 posted on 01/07/2016 7:43:42 PM PST by xzins (Have YOU Donated to the Freep-a-Thon? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: sitetest

But Cruz was born in Canada.

And I do think it’s interesting that Italy has such a law, and I also bet you get some great Italian food in your family. :>)


44 posted on 01/07/2016 7:45:26 PM PST by xzins (Have YOU Donated to the Freep-a-Thon? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: xzins

The point is , Italy being a great example, it is wrong to assume that if you’re born in a place, you get citizenship of the place. Especially if you’re getting your citizenship through one or both of your parents, who are not citizens of your birthplace.


45 posted on 01/07/2016 7:49:59 PM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Hatch is laying cover for Obama. You can't question Cruz's eligibility without calling into legal question all that Obama has "accomplished".

https://www.conservativereview.com/members/orrin-hatch/

Watch for all the GOP-E who hate Cruz to also come out publicly and claim his eligibility is a non-issue. They aren't doing it to help Cruz, that's for certain.


46 posted on 01/07/2016 7:53:57 PM PST by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: xzins

DS-1350 - I think that’s what my son had/has. (well, hopefully his dad does because I don’t) but I do remember it was paperwork to the State Department and not to an Embassy.

Whatever it was, paperwork HAS to be filed. And on file.

An oddity - it appears that a lot of paperwork has to be filed to move from Canada to the USA. Cruz’s mother was an American citizen, his father Cuban/Canadian/whatever. Anyway, he couldn’t just drive across the border and take up residence.

http://www.visaplace.com/blog-immigration-law/canada-visa-news/moving-from-canada-to-usa/


47 posted on 01/07/2016 7:54:56 PM PST by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: Duchess47

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/w2w/foreign.htm#foreign_births


48 posted on 01/07/2016 7:57:00 PM PST by xzins (Have YOU Donated to the Freep-a-Thon? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Duchess47

And we shouldn’t forget than an American overseas MUST file an IRS tax form each year just like everyone else.


49 posted on 01/07/2016 7:58:13 PM PST by xzins (Have YOU Donated to the Freep-a-Thon? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Duchess47

Crystal clear. Imagine that!


50 posted on 01/07/2016 7:58:14 PM PST by Jane Long (Go Trump, go! Make America Safe Again :)
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To: xzins

Thanks for that link. I can probably get copies of his paperwork.


51 posted on 01/07/2016 8:00:42 PM PST by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: xzins

Didn’t need one ...it appears-

“Failure to promptly document a child who meets the statutory requirements for acquiring U.S. citizenship at birth may cause problems for the parents and the child when attempting to establish the child’s U.S. citizenship and eligibility for the rights and benefits of U.S. citizenship, including entry into the United States. By law, U.S. citizens, including dual nationals, must use a U.S. passport to enter and leave the United States. “

Says not getting one might cause problems, but doesn’t effect citizenship.


52 posted on 01/07/2016 8:00:49 PM PST by VinL (It is better to suffer every wrong, than to consent to wrong.)
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To: The All Knowing All Seeing Oz

IRREFUTABLE AUTHORITY HAS SPOKEN
(Oct. 18, 2009) — The Post & Email has in several articles mentioned that the Supreme Court of the United States has given the definition of what a “natural born citizen” is. Since being a natural born citizen is an objective qualification and requirement of office for the U.S. President, it is important for all U.S. Citizens to understand what this term means.

http://www.thepostemail.com/2009/10/18/4-supreme-court-cases-define-natural-born-citizen/


53 posted on 01/07/2016 8:05:48 PM PST by Leo Carpathian (FReeeeepeesssssed)
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To: Jane Long

LOL. At the time it was. Since I’ve had a couple of small strokes my memory is not the greatest anymore.

I do remember though that the ink hadn’t dried on his German birth certificate before my husband and I had all of the paperwork filled out and on it’s way to the State Department. That was the first and foremost item on the agenda. And getting him added to my passport.

Europe in the early 70’s was kind of iffy, dog tags issued to all dependents, punch cards to turn in at exit points, standing orders for all of us to be ready to go home at a minutes notice. I always had a bag packed for the baby just in case.


54 posted on 01/07/2016 8:06:53 PM PST by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: lewislynn

It’s your guy who’s gone.


55 posted on 01/07/2016 8:08:16 PM PST by VinL (It is better to suffer every wrong, than to consent to wrong.)
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To: VinL; Duchess47

So, where is that old passport or CRBA applied for at birth to document US citizenship? Or the application for citizenship after age 18?

If none exist, then the Canadian birth certificate doesn’t prove that Cruz or parents ever applied for US citizenship and still needs to do so.


56 posted on 01/07/2016 8:08:22 PM PST by xzins (Have YOU Donated to the Freep-a-Thon? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: xzins

Yes, we had to file and did vote every year that we were in Germany. California let us off on state taxes but not the feds. We voted absentee from our home of record.


57 posted on 01/07/2016 8:08:45 PM PST by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: xzins

Cruz’s father apparently became a US citizen in 2005 (I think).


58 posted on 01/07/2016 8:10:24 PM PST by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: VinL

And minor children don’t require passports.


59 posted on 01/07/2016 8:12:18 PM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: cripplecreek
However it does lead to some interesting questions on adoption from outside the country and eligibility.

Not really. Adopted children may gain citizenship, but that is not anything at all like being a citizen from the moment of birth.

That's really what it's all about. When was Cruz alive and not a US citizen? When did he become naturalized?

60 posted on 01/07/2016 8:16:13 PM PST by SoothingDave
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