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Byron York: In Iowa, Trump could be closer to Cruz than people think
Washington Examiner ^

Posted on 01/07/2016 6:38:59 PM PST by springwater13

"I look at Trump, and his ceiling is so much higher than everyone else's," says Craig Robinson, a former political director of the Iowa GOP who now runs the Iowa Republican blog. "His campaign has gone out and had people self-identify that they're interested in him, and they've captured that data."

Robinson's assessment runs counter to one of the dearest-held assumptions of the political punditocracy. Many commentators believe Trump has a high floor but a low ceiling - that is, his supporters really, really support him and are unlikely to go anywhere else, but he doesn't have much room to grow, because he already has the loyalty of Republicans who are inclined to like him.

To Robinson, that's not the way it looks in Iowa. Start with the numbers.

In 2000, George W. Bush won the caucuses with 35,231 votes. In 2008, Mike Huckabee won with 40,954. In 2012, Rick Santorum won with 29,839.

"Ted Cruz is swimming in a pond where the capacity is about 30,000 votes," says Robinson. "I look at Trump and think that Trump is at that 30,000 mark now, and has the ability to blow past it, if they do a good job of turning their people out."

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...


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To: sunrise_sunset
if they are panicking why is Trump giving speeches in Vermont ?

And focusing 90 percent of his fire on his general election opponent.
41 posted on 01/07/2016 8:27:27 PM PST by over3Owithabrain
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To: Rome2000; CatherineofAragon; cripplecreek; SoConPubbie; editor-surveyor; Finny; VinL; Isara; ...

Rome2000 Said:

“If Trump loses in Iowa, it will only ensure this is the LAST TIME these 99.99% WHITE IMBECILES get to weigh in on the RIGHT WING CANDIDATE FOR POTUS.”

Wow. What a disgraceful comment.


42 posted on 01/07/2016 8:30:33 PM PST by parksstp ("Truth is NOT Rhetoric" - Sen. Ted Cruz (The obvious conservative choice for POTUS))
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To: AustinBill
The real story of Iowa will not be the finish order, but the turnout.

He'll probably raffle off spaces on his helicopter for a ride to the caucus, and swoop up all the losing entrants into luxury coaches with hors d'oeuvres for the ride over.

43 posted on 01/07/2016 8:32:50 PM PST by Albion Wilde ("Look, the establishment doesn't want me, because I don't need the establishment." --Donald Trump)
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To: MountainDad

I live in Iowa and think the caucuses are pretty good for the most part. The Republican process is pretty straight forward. Secret ballot. The Dems is open for gamesmanship. Voters have to stand and publicly declare support for a candidate by standing with a group. Then they go to a second round to winnow the field. Round two can be nasty.


44 posted on 01/07/2016 8:33:07 PM PST by cornfedcowboy
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To: Repeal The 17th
Delegates will be awarded proportionally. So, what will the breakdown in Iowa be? Will it be 14 for Cruz and 13 for Trump?

If it's 14 Cruz / 13 Trump: "Trump crashes, burns, loses big in Iowa!"

If it's 13 Cruz /14 Trump: "Cruz victory over Trump certain to follow near rout in Iowa."

45 posted on 01/07/2016 8:38:44 PM PST by Albion Wilde ("Look, the establishment doesn't want me, because I don't need the establishment." --Donald Trump)
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To: parksstp
Why is Trump not giving speeches or spending more time in IA? And when did VT become a bastion of conservatism or even moderates? That place is lefty-loony land. They voted for a socialist.

Ted Cruz is running for a primary in Iowa. Donald Trump is running for President of the United States.

46 posted on 01/07/2016 8:39:21 PM PST by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man a subject")
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To: over3Owithabrain

“And focusing 90 percent of his fire on his general election opponent.”

Oh is that what they’re calling it now. Could of fooled me. Silly me, I thought this election would be about actually having conservative ideals and principles and substantive issues at the forefront of the race this time around. But it’s clear people like you want it to be about anger and emotion.

So I’m suppose to cheer and worship the mighty Donald just because he says:

Wants Rand Paul to be primaried in Kentucky

Griping about not being selected as Time Person of the Year

Talks tough on gun rights, yet I still don’t see the “Gun-Free” zones being lifted from the Trump Hotel Properties

Supports 40% Tarriff on imports

Talks about himself and polls and how great he is 24/7 and throws in a jab at Hillary and Bernie every now and then while tossing out protestors they allowed in so they could toss out to rile up the crowd.

It’s a circus. People not serious about saving the country support Trump. Those of us who grew up and have an adult-level IQ support Cruz.

This article was written about you and most of the Trump supporters here fall under the first 3 points:

https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2016/01/how-to-identify-a-political-sappy


47 posted on 01/07/2016 8:40:15 PM PST by parksstp ("Truth is NOT Rhetoric" - Sen. Ted Cruz (The obvious conservative choice for POTUS))
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To: parksstp

You simply do not know this until the caucuses open.

Cruz looks more like he is in a panic with his bus tour all over Iowa while Trump is having huge rallies in the tens of thousands and Cruz can’t even draw 50 at a crack!!!

As I said you really do not know what will happen. When the voting starts the truth will come out.


48 posted on 01/07/2016 8:43:40 PM PST by GilGil
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To: parksstp

Iowans need to get with the program.

Last chance

Big takeover coming down.


49 posted on 01/07/2016 8:49:31 PM PST by Rome2000 (SMASH THE CPUSA-SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS-CLOSE ALL MOSQUES)
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To: Rome2000

“takeover”

Oh, are you one of those Trumpsters that was advocating that Trump should shred the Constitution and rule as a dictator?

I’ve never seem statism associated with conservatism.


50 posted on 01/07/2016 8:54:39 PM PST by parksstp ("Truth is NOT Rhetoric" - Sen. Ted Cruz (The obvious conservative choice for POTUS))
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To: over3Owithabrain

Trump is an executive and a manager. He buys the best talented people he can find and lets them do their jobs. That is why Trump is not in Iowa right now. Trump understands that he cannot do it all himself. In order to be successful he has to delegate. That is how he has amassed a $12 billion fortune.

Cruz on the other hand is a senator. His training is to micro manage and dictate what needs to be done and so he is wearing himself out puddle jumping in Iowa in his bus. Unfortunately he is like Hillary, Obama, McCain all senators who do not understand how to manage and delegate. In the end, that is Cruz’ Achilles heel and downfall. Senators make absolutely terrible presidents. They have very little real world experience the more they stay as senators.

About a day or two before the caucuses open, the poll numbers will unexpectedly break for Trump because the msm will have to save face for cooking the books like they did with Bush, then Fiorina, then Carson, then Rubio and finally Cruz.

The last 48 hours before the caucuses open will reveal all.


51 posted on 01/07/2016 8:58:13 PM PST by GilGil
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To: springwater13

Byron got himself a dose reality. Trump support understated in the state polls. Turnout. Turnout. Turnout.


52 posted on 01/07/2016 9:02:55 PM PST by BigEdLB (Take it Easy, Chuck. I'm Not Taking it Back -- Donald Trump)
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To: parksstp

Yeah, lots of people seem to go for the show. So they were then when he dropped a bomb, or just for entertainment. This is what Trump does. This article seemed a bit of hype, based on one guy’s observations.
Cruz is the ONLY candidate moving up in polls. Remember in the summer Trump said he wouldn’t use the birther stuff unless it got down to the two of them. Trump sees what is coming. I know you can’t go by polls but Cruz is so solid. Conservatives see it. And only 11% of Iowans in one of those polls said Trump had temperament to be POTUS. I looked at internals on Iowa tonight and Trump really does not look good inside.
Trumpees cannot help themselves. Someone called one of our best girlfriends the C word tonight, apparently has done so before. My anger is turning to pity. Funny, huh?


53 posted on 01/07/2016 9:05:43 PM PST by libbylu
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To: GilGil

Jeb is low energy and Cruz is low synergy???


54 posted on 01/07/2016 9:41:02 PM PST by TauntedTiger (Born free!)
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To: parksstp
People not serious about saving the country support Trump. Those of us who grew up and have an adult-level IQ support Cruz.

If you want people to take your posts seriously, this is not the way to do it.
55 posted on 01/07/2016 9:42:41 PM PST by Girlene
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To: parksstp; Rome2000
"If Trump loses in Iowa, it will only ensure this is the LAST TIME these 99.99% WHITE IMBECILES get to weigh in on the RIGHT WING CANDIDATE FOR POTUS."

But it does give me something to post to the Iowa voters on twitter.
56 posted on 01/08/2016 2:06:59 AM PST by cripplecreek (Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.)
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To: dforest
Absolutely right.
57 posted on 01/08/2016 4:24:39 AM PST by UKrepublican
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To: parksstp
But it’s clear people like you want it to be about anger and emotion.

LOL says the guy throwing out profanities and ranting and raving. Entertaining.
58 posted on 01/08/2016 5:11:42 AM PST by over3Owithabrain
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To: Girlene

It’s easier, and more fun, just not to take his posts seriously.


59 posted on 01/08/2016 5:12:34 AM PST by over3Owithabrain
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