Posted on 01/11/2016 8:19:23 AM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans
The experts are coming out of the woodwork now, as opposed to crickets in 2008. Disgusting.
Bull. The first Congress was very clear that someone who was a citizen by means of birth was a natural-born citizen. Immigration and Nationality Act of 1790. That should put to rest any question of what “Natural-born” meant to our founding fathers.
Poor George Washington. His mother wasn’t a US citizen when he was born.
Yeah, but he got grandfathered in per the citizenship clause, as did the other seven of the first presidents.
Read the constitution: all the founding fathers, and all those who were citizens at the time of the constitution, are automatically grandfathered in as "natural born citizens." That clause ceases for anyone born thereafter.
[The experts are coming out of the woodwork now, as opposed to crickets in 2008. Disgusting.]
Yes, and I remember not too long ago the same people complaining about the questioning Cruz is getting on this insisting that our candidates be vetted.
Don’t bitch if it’s YOUR candidate that’s being vetted. It’s what you asked for!!!
Interestingly, I saw a post by Publius Hulday from a while back that covered this issue. It’s referred to as “coverture,” and yes, it was in operation in the 1790s, though not the 1970s when Cruz was born.
Thats a logical KO in the first round. In the first ten seconds, even.
But GPH doesn't deal in logic, unfortunately.
Fordham Law Prof: Ted Cruz Not ‘Natural Born’ Under ‘Originalist’ View of Constitution
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I disagree. Ted is a NBC. But the prof is right; The definition now of what a Natural Born Citizen is vastly different (possibly opposite of) what the Framers intended.
Whether congress understood NBC according to the Law of Nations or English Common Law, in either case, Cruz wouldn't qualify. Under ECW, citizenship does not derive from the mother, but through the father. Under the law of nations, Cruz is disqualified because he was not born in the US to two citizen parents.
By the way, the 1790 act was amended and its "natural born" language specifically removed, probably due to Congress realizing that the British were using it to justify impressment. The founders did not want people upon whom dual claims of citizenship can be made.
Opening a can of worms.
Liberal courts that would not give 2 seconds to the Obama birth certificate will suddenly find Cruz’ situation REEEEEAL interesting.
If he wins we could be looking at overtime for the Obama Administration.
If you liked his inane comment, I bet you loved my retort.
Ha ha. How quaint using the law to figure out what the law says. Don’t you know that’s why we have leftist activists.
Exactly. Saint Ted doesn’t get a super-duper special out from being vetted, just because they like him.
If he can’t stand the heat, then he needs to get out of the kitchen.
I think you’re a putz.
Everybody who I make a fool of tends to feel that way.
Not true. I was part of those opposing Obama based on his background. He was naturalized as a U.S.citizen in 1983; formerly he was an Indonesian citizen.
See: the blog of Leo Donofrio, which began in December 2008 and ended March 2012. His arguments for a strict understanding of the Article II eligibility requirement for Natural born citizenship is amazing. I strongly suggest you read all four years worth of information. All of it is eye opening. Note: anyone who challenged Obamas claims received death threats; Cruz has not gotten to that point.
https://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2008/12/
Under the current theory that says Ted is a Natural Born Citizen, the Royal Princes and Princesses of Jordan are also Natural Born Citizens. Their mother was born a US Citizen.
Do we really need to take a chance on another first term Senator who really, really wants to be President? Just asking.
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