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Teen walking in park with dad raped by group of men
http://nypost.com/ ^ | 01/11/2016 | Amanda Woods

Posted on 01/11/2016 9:40:10 AM PST by massmike

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What a horrible situation. I’m a mom and would fight to the death to protect my child. But I’m not sure what the best response would have been in that situation. If I lunged for the perp with the gun and he kills me, would they then be likely to kill my daughter to eliminate a murder witness? I don’t know that there’s any best response for an unarmed person in this situation.


61 posted on 01/11/2016 10:10:08 AM PST by Kipp
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To: Nervous Tick
Do you honestly think the cowardly filth are going to fire gunshots at the father and then stick around to rape the girl? I don't.

That's a very, very good point, and something that the father probably never considered during the confusion and panic. But I suppose that now he will consider it, and for the rest of his life.

62 posted on 01/11/2016 10:12:26 AM PST by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: strings6459

Bet your bottom dollar this horrible event will find itsway into a Trump speech soon—as well it should.


63 posted on 01/11/2016 10:12:30 AM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll Onward! Ride to the sound of the guns!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I have to agree with you on this one. I don’t like blaming the victim. But my Father would have died himself protecting me in a scenario like that. That I am sure of.


64 posted on 01/11/2016 10:15:07 AM PST by Hildy
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To: massmike
Let's see: on West Coast (SF), young women shot while innocently walking with dad; East Coast (NY) young woman raped while visiting neighborhood park with dad!

Note to all young women, especially on both liberal coasts, arm yourself for your own protection and move out of liberal areas where guns aren't allowed!

Evil vermin are running liberal cities - and granted more rights than the innocent victims by the liberal elites, who will never become victims because they are protected by heavily armed security, who also know they live in violent cesspools!

65 posted on 01/11/2016 10:15:30 AM PST by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: cbvanb

How would she have felt being gang raped while watching her father being murdered? Given the situation, he is unarmed against 5 thugs at least one with a gun, the only way he could help his daughter was by going for help. There was nothing he could do for her by staying when told to leave.

Passing up the opportunity he was given to get her help might have enhanced his street cred in the eyes of internet mall ninjas, commandos and other tough guys, but it could only have made things worse for his daughter.

Put the blame where it belongs, with the 5 thugs and the NYC and NYS lawmakers who deny law abiding men and women the right to protect themselves and their families from armed thugs.


66 posted on 01/11/2016 10:16:28 AM PST by Above My Pay Grade (Donald Trump: New York City Liberal)
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To: Responsibility2nd

You were saying that he was partially at fault for this. He was walking his adult daughter through a park, when this nightmare happens, and you state that he shares some of the blame? Pretty sick.


67 posted on 01/11/2016 10:16:36 AM PST by jjsheridan5
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To: ealgeone

I agree 100%. He did the only thing he could donfor her, get help.


68 posted on 01/11/2016 10:18:25 AM PST by Above My Pay Grade (Donald Trump: New York City Liberal)
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To: huldah1776

Get him first and get control of the gun. Of course not every one is Chuck Norris.


69 posted on 01/11/2016 10:18:55 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: dem bums

You fight, period. Never give them what they want. Worse case they kill you and actually go to jail for something rather than probation or light sentence for rape and you daughter knows you love her enough to fight for her. Chicken shit.


70 posted on 01/11/2016 10:22:02 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: ealgeone

“Even if he’d had a gun, 1 - 5 odds aren’t good.”

Not if one is a normal American red state father. We might die together, but ill be damned if my daughter would see me flee and leave her behind.

Low life coward.


71 posted on 01/11/2016 10:22:33 AM PST by DesertRhino ("I want those feeble minded asses overthrown,,,")
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To: kjam22
I was probably stupid, but I was NOT going to give some jerk my wallet

I once read an article written by some self-defense expert. He said that everyone should carry throw-away money in addition to a wallet.

Throw-away money is a couple of folded bills, with a twenty on the outside, all held together by a paper clip. Then if you're accosted, as you were, throw that money at the thug's feet as you back away.

Not a perfect solution, of course, but it's worth considering.

72 posted on 01/11/2016 10:22:50 AM PST by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: huldah1776

“One had a gun. So what do you do?”

Attack. Attack with insane fury. Maybe die. But your daughter doesn’t see her dad run away and leave her with a pack of,,,, rapists.


73 posted on 01/11/2016 10:24:11 AM PST by DesertRhino ("I want those feeble minded asses overthrown,,,")
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To: Leaning Right

That’s a good idea....


74 posted on 01/11/2016 10:24:37 AM PST by kjam22
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To: jjsheridan5

IF you had a child - would you walk them into the gorilla cage down at the zoo?

IF you had a child - would you let them play with loaded guns unsupervised?

IF you had a child - would you let them in the back of a pickup while you raced about through traffic at 100mph?

IF you had a child - you would not be making such moronic comments.


75 posted on 01/11/2016 10:24:43 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (Is Ted Cruz a US citizen? Yeah? Then Shut Up and Sit Down.)
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To: ealgeone

5 or 500, you fight.

By your rationale that whenever our military boys were outnumber/gunned in WW2 they should have run?

The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing... or run.


76 posted on 01/11/2016 10:26:41 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: Above My Pay Grade

What???

He ran away! He left his daughter to get raped.

So chances are good that if he grabbed his daughter and they BOTH ran, then they BOTH would have gotten away.


77 posted on 01/11/2016 10:27:05 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (Is Ted Cruz a US citizen? Yeah? Then Shut Up and Sit Down.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

“Run out of sight when dismissed and then come back after deploying your firearm. Then start shooting.”

Feigned compliance before a violent attack is a -very- powerful technique.


78 posted on 01/11/2016 10:28:01 AM PST by DesertRhino ("I want those feeble minded asses overthrown,,,")
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To: conservative98
They were 14 and 15 year olds.

Any other description?

79 posted on 01/11/2016 10:28:21 AM PST by GOPJ (Trump's living rent-free in Jeb's head - wearing a robe and comfy slippers. FlickLives)
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To: massmike

I don’t understand the cowardly responses. What kind of man abandons a woman, much less his daughter, to an army of thugs. Shame, at least be a keyboard commando on the issue and pretend you would make a stand and protect her.


80 posted on 01/11/2016 10:28:22 AM PST by strings6459
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