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Iran’s Propaganda Victory in One Illegal Image
NRO ^ | 1/13/16 | David French

Posted on 01/14/2016 5:11:03 AM PST by don-o

This photograph violates international law. Article 13 of the Geneva Convention (III), governing the treatment of prisoners of war, requires Iran to protect prisoners against "insults and public curiosity." This photograph -- including a female sailor apparently forced to wear a headscarf - is a quintessential example of "public curiosity" and would be interpreted as insulting throughout the Muslim world. (And if you don't think Iran is in a state of armed conflict against the United States, tell that to the families of hundreds of American soldiers who've lost their lives to Iranians and Iranian-backed terrorists.) The sight of members of the American military, disarmed and under Iranian control, is of enormous propaganda value in Iran's ongoing war against the United States.

To its allies in the Middle East, the photo demonstrates Iran's strength - how many jihadist countries have had this many American servicemembers under their power? - and it demonstrates American weakness. Then there's this:

(Excerpt) Read more at nationalreview.com ...


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1 posted on 01/14/2016 5:11:03 AM PST by don-o
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To: don-o

Something not right about all of this.

there are to many questions, like why didn’t they fight back, why didn’t the running boat tow the other boat out of the zone,

No this stinks to high heaven it has the finger print of a ‘covert action’ like either something being delivered to iran or something from iran going to obama.


2 posted on 01/14/2016 5:14:17 AM PST by The_Republic_Of_Maine (politicians beware)
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To: don-o

I thought there was a picture of all of them on their knees.


3 posted on 01/14/2016 5:14:28 AM PST by Ann Archy (ABORTION....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Ann Archy

There is.


4 posted on 01/14/2016 5:16:33 AM PST by Kanzan
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To: Ann Archy

There is.


5 posted on 01/14/2016 5:17:36 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (I think Hillary looks tired, don't you?)
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To: Kanzan

Can someone Post it??


6 posted on 01/14/2016 5:19:27 AM PST by Ann Archy (ABORTION....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: The_Republic_Of_Maine

I agree. Things don’t add up.


7 posted on 01/14/2016 5:20:30 AM PST by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: The_Republic_Of_Maine
it has the fingerprint of "covert action".

It does. My thought was "why are they in Iranian waters if they weren't up to something?" Wouldn't proper procedures have been to pre-emptively inform US and Iranian military if it had been innocent and they did or could stray into those waters because of the disabled boat? Even in normal circumstances, should they have been being looked after by our military, being so close to Iranian and other borders? And considering the terrorist threat, shouldn't they have been ready to defend themselves if anyone approached?

Come to think of it, if the "disabled boat" is true, why was no one on their way to escort them.

8 posted on 01/14/2016 5:21:44 AM PST by grania
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To: Ann Archy

There are several; one is in the linked article. Obama and company have given a priceless gift to Iran - video proof of the impotence of the US in the face of Iranian might. These pictures (along with Obama/Kerry’s gift of $150 billion USD) will go a long way in helping Iran to become the preeminent power in that part of the world and will push Saudi Arabia to move more rapidly to acquire nuclear weapons to defend itself.


9 posted on 01/14/2016 5:21:48 AM PST by Truth29
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To: The_Republic_Of_Maine; don-o

I rarely pull out my dusty old trident, but in this case, here goes. I was a Navy SEAL officer in the 1980s, and this kind of operation (transiting small boats in foreign waters) was our bread and butter. Today, these boats both not only had radar, but multiple GPS devices, including chart plotters that place your boat’s icon right on the chart. The claim by Iran that the USN boats “strayed into Iranian waters” is complete bull$#it.

For an open-water transit between nations, the course is studied and planned in advance by the leaders of the Riverine Squadron, with specific attention given to staying wide and clear of any hostile nation’s claimed territorial waters. The boats are given a complete mechanical check before departure, and they have sufficient fuel to accomplish their mission plus extra. If, for some unexplainable and rare circumstance one boat broke down, the other would tow it, that’s why two boats go on these trips and not one! It’s called “self-rescue” and it’s SOP.

This entire situation is in my area of expertise. I can state with complete confidence that both Iran and our own State Department are lying. The boats did not enter Iranian waters. They were overtaken in international waters by Iranian patrol boats that were so superior in both speed and firepower that it became a “hands up!” situation, with automatic cannons in the 40mm to 76mm range pointed at them point-blank. Surrender, hands up, or be blown out of the water. I assume that the Iranians had an English speaker on a loudspeaker to make the demand. This takedown was no accident or coincidence, it was a planned slap across America’s face.

Just watch. The released sailors will be ordered not to say a word about the incident, and the Iranians will have taken every GPS device, chart-plotter etc off the boats, so that we will not be able to prove where our boats were taken.

The “strayed into Iranian waters” story being put out by Iran and our groveling and appeasing State Dept. is utter and complete BS from one end to the other.


10 posted on 01/14/2016 5:23:03 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: don-o

Hmmmm. I'm thinking this photo is fake.

If they were in the Navy, they would all have cheesy mustaches.

11 posted on 01/14/2016 5:28:15 AM PST by IDontLikeToPayTaxes
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To: The_Republic_Of_Maine
Perhaps they were a “taxi”. Seems to me I recall a concern about hidden anti-ship missile systems on the islands in the area. Hard to spot therefore hard to target from above.

Soooooo.....to give our military the benefit of the doubt...

I hope our women in combat have had training in the proper use and wearing of islamic wear.

What a great f%^&ing idea.

12 posted on 01/14/2016 5:31:09 AM PST by JEDI4S (I don't mean to cause trouble...it just happens naturally through the Force!)
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To: don-o

Obama has shown that he is Iran’s bitch.

Why should Iran worry itself over international law?


13 posted on 01/14/2016 5:35:56 AM PST by Arm_Bears (I'll have what the gentleman on the floor is drinking.)
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To: Travis McGee

Your scenario makes a lot of sense, but then why would the Iranians substitute the bayliner type outboard boats as the actual craft that intercepted and captured the Americans. It makes the heavily armed US boats and crew look completely ineffective against a fishing crew level navy - unless that was its purpose.


14 posted on 01/14/2016 5:41:38 AM PST by Truth29
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To: Travis McGee
The released sailors will be ordered not to say a word about the incident,

No doubt this is true. But, what does that say of the moral fiber of those who are swearing the oath?

I have a son who is training for striker jet flight. Since he has been a Marine, I have tried to plant in his mind his ultimate duty and to be prepared to disobey unlawful orders. This is going to be another teaching moment the next time I speak to him.

15 posted on 01/14/2016 5:46:38 AM PST by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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16 posted on 01/14/2016 5:49:00 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Ann Archy
I thought there was a picture of all of them on their knees.

And as the article states, it is, no doubt, widely published all over the Muslim world.

17 posted on 01/14/2016 5:51:30 AM PST by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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To: Travis McGee

“The “strayed into Iranian waters” story being put out by Iran and our groveling and appeasing State Dept. is utter and complete BS from one end to the other.

My thoughts exactly.


18 posted on 01/14/2016 5:52:23 AM PST by jdsteel (Give me freedom, not more government.)
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To: Travis McGee

Well done as always.


19 posted on 01/14/2016 5:52:41 AM PST by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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To: Lazamataz; NormsRevenge; glock rocks; nathanbedford; Travis McGee

You don’t want to miss post 10 ping


20 posted on 01/14/2016 5:55:09 AM PST by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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