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Two U.S. Marine Corps CH-53E helicopters have collided off Hawaii (12 Marines missing)
Aviationist ^ | Jan 15 2016 | David Cenciotti

Posted on 01/15/2016 1:10:03 PM PST by robowombat

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To: yarddog
Hope for the best but fear it is bad.

I read of 10 foot seas and weather worsening earlier today.

21 posted on 01/15/2016 2:02:35 PM PST by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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To: Jyotishi

Never saw those. Neither got much input. Sad that is.


22 posted on 01/15/2016 2:05:52 PM PST by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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To: Vaquero

Perhaps you meant to ask what any of them were doing on December 11, 2013.

HF


23 posted on 01/15/2016 2:07:08 PM PST by holden
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To: FoxInSocks

Thanks

I just checked the image data for the picture and it was from January 2012. Just about four years ago.


24 posted on 01/15/2016 2:09:14 PM PST by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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To: holden

http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/story/military/2016/01/15/coast-guard-2-marine-corps-helicopters-collide-off-oahu-debris-field-spotted-off-coast/78838392/


25 posted on 01/15/2016 2:09:59 PM PST by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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To: MeganC

You train like you fight, else the training is useless.


26 posted on 01/15/2016 2:13:14 PM PST by SunTzuWu
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To: don-o

I posted a thread from a USMC Twitter feed a while back, maybe they saw that and moved this?


27 posted on 01/15/2016 2:15:08 PM PST by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: SunTzuWu; Travis McGee

was told that those helos have a crew of four. So, perhaps two Recon or Seals on board?


28 posted on 01/15/2016 2:16:20 PM PST by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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To: PghBaldy

Not sure how I missed it as I have been on most of the day.

I am a proud Papa of a Marine student aviator and all these young men feel like sons to me.

Pics on my profile.


29 posted on 01/15/2016 2:23:08 PM PST by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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To: Travis McGee

“Like the mothership descending.”

We occasionally had the engineers pick up a downed Huey with a CH-54. Kind of like a CH-53 that has had lap-band surgery.


30 posted on 01/15/2016 2:42:08 PM PST by beelzepug (2 Timothy 2:23 Don't have anything to do with foolish and stupid arguments...")
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To: robowombat

Prayers up. just damn...


31 posted on 01/15/2016 2:43:04 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY - Luke, 22:36)
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To: robowombat

“spotted less than 3 miles off the coast, near the town of Haleiwa,”

This was the location of the auxiliary airfield where a few fighters took off during Pearl Harbor. American kids still risking their lives there day and night, whether we always know it or not.


32 posted on 01/15/2016 2:43:34 PM PST by DesertRhino ("I want those feeble minded asses overthrown,,,")
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To: don-o

More likely additional squadron personnel.

There is a pretty demanding air operations schedule that Marine helo squadrons must fly in order for their helicopter pilots to stay certified on all the various aspects of military helicopter operations: night operations with NVGs, over water navigation, deck landings on amphibious ships (day/night (illuminated and NVG), etc.

In discussing this with Marine aviators (helicopter type, one each) during and after my time in the Marines, it became clear that a lot of the helo flights made during long transits to and from deployment locations was driven by the need to keep up pilot qualifications. Out of that necessity, the birds were going to be flown whether or not they had passengers in the back.

The two extra passengers might have been squadron pilots rotating with the pilot and co-pilot to log night flying hours.

CH-53s don’t crash well. Hoping for the best, but it rarely happens with this aircraft type.


33 posted on 01/15/2016 2:56:14 PM PST by Captain Rhino (Determined effort today forges tomorrow)
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To: Squantos; Travis McGee

Prayers up for those Marines...

Just damn...


34 posted on 01/15/2016 3:02:24 PM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: robowombat

I said this in a previous post about a helicopter crash in Afghanistan. It seems to me we have not advanced in helicopter design to make these machines more resistant to being shot down and also more survivable - maybe a way to make the passenger bay more robust that can cushion a rough landing better. It just seems a waste to lose so many good men and women in helicopter crashes.


35 posted on 01/15/2016 3:15:29 PM PST by Trumpinator ("Are you Batman?" the boy asked. "I am Batman," Trump said.)
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To: Trumpinator

1500 hrs out there and no word.

Lord have mercy.


36 posted on 01/15/2016 5:04:41 PM PST by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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To: Squantos

I am no help with helicopters..


37 posted on 01/15/2016 5:07:59 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: robowombat; markomalley; DYngbld; TADSLOS; xsrdx; big'ol_freeper; Mark17; mikefive; JDoutrider; ...

Active Duty ping.


38 posted on 01/15/2016 5:09:03 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: Jet Jaguar

Thanks JJ. Sad to see this thread languishing.


39 posted on 01/15/2016 5:14:27 PM PST by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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To: don-o

posted twice, but I keep checking to hear of any updates. Even listening to Hawaii talk radio.

http://saleminteractivemedia.com/ListenLive/Player/KHNRAM


40 posted on 01/15/2016 5:36:08 PM PST by huldah1776
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