Trump at Liberty University: There’s a verse in “Two Corinthians” that really says it all

Hot Air ^ | January 18, 2016 | Allahpundit

[Isara]

A lot of guffawing about this by reporters on social media today. Mollie Hemingway wonders: Who pulled them aside and told them it’s supposed to be “Second Corinthians”?

Mildly getting kick out of media, who (at best) give a pitch perfect impression of Biblical illiteracy, mocking Trump for 'Two Corinthians.'

— Mollie (@MZHemingway) January 18, 2016

Readers grumble that I’m too negative about Trump so let me pay him a sincere compliment. I admire that he has the stones to go into a place like Liberty and not even make a pretense of being a devout believer. You could dismiss what he said last summer about not being sure if he’s ever asked God for forgiveness as an amateur mistake; it’s an amazing mistake for someone in a GOP primary to make, amateur or not, but a first-time candidate who’s running as the opposite of a scripted politician gets a little leeway. Six months later, Trump is more polished in interviews and at the debates, and obviously by design — he wants voters to get more comfortable with imagining him as president. But still, he seems to have made no apparent effort to polish his handle on Christian priorities even though he’s competing with an ostentatiously evangelical candidate in Iowa. Why is that? How is it that Trump hasn’t brought in an advisor to teach him how to talk to evangelicals in a way that suggests he shares their worldview? How is it he’s still struggling with questions about divine forgiveness? How is it he can’t spare a hundred grand to have one guy on call who can vet his speeches in advance and say, “Okay, you know that ‘2 Corinthians’ is a written reference to ‘Second Corinthians,’ right?” Or maybe he does have that guy and the guy simply assumed that Trump knew that because, really, who wouldn’t know that who’s been to church a few times as a kid?

I think Trump’s approach to all of this is “what you see is what you get.” He’ll pander half-heartedly, like calling the Bible the only book better than “The Art of the Deal,” but even that operates more as a self-deprecating joke on Trump’s own narcissistic grandeur than as a serious expression of belief. When it comes to evangelicals, he seems resolved not to go out of his way to suggest he feels a sense of piety when he obviously doesn’t. I respect that. Frankly, I wish more politicians would follow his example. And given how well he’s doing in Iowa, a lot of Christian voters seem to respect it too. It’s amazing to me that he’s competitive with Cruz among the wider GOP electorate given how glib his professions of faith are, but that just goes to show that “values voters” aren’t the one- or two-issue voters they’re always stereotyped as being. Plenty of evangelicals, I’d guess, prefer Trump because they think he’d deliver the biggest possible change to D.C. despite the fact that they likely have more confidence in Cruz and Marco Rubio on social issues. They’re treating politics as politics, not as a morals test. You’d think they’d get more credit from their critics on the left for that. Plus, why should evangelical voters hold Trump’s past moral failings against him when prominent Christian politicians obviously don’t? Mike Huckabee and Rick Santorum, the most outspoken Christian pols in the field, are in a contest lately to see who can speak more warmly of Donald Trump at the expense of their evangelical rival, Ted Cruz:

"Past is prologue and if you look at someone's past, it's legit," Santorum began, but added, "people change and that's a good thing. I want to encourage everybody to be more conservative."

"You look at some of the greatest conservatives, many of them changed positions over the years," Santorum added…

Santorum took a more skeptical line when asked about Cruz.

"You've seen a shift," he said.

"If you're going out there as he is and saying 'Trust Ted' and 'I am the guy you can trust all the time because I'm not going to waver' [but] then you have a whole laundry list of wavers and changes, then I think it's fair game."

Lifelong practicing Christian Ted Cruz is a shifty flip-flopper but longtime Democratic donor and Hillary pal Donald Trump should be welcomed into the conservative fold? Good to know that Rick Santorum’s principles don’t depend on electoral strategy.

If you want to see just how well received Trump is by some prominent evangelicals, read some of the highlights from the introduction that Jerry Falwell Jr gave him before today’s convocation speech. Quote: "In my opinion, Donald Trump lives a life of loving and helping others as Jesus taught in the great commandment.” Russell Moore, the president of the Southern Baptist Convention’s Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission, was agog:

Absolutely unbelievable. https://t.co/fDTD5LBWNt

— Russell Moore (@drmoore) January 18, 2016

Trading in the gospel of Jesus Christ for political power is not liberty but slavery.

— Russell Moore (@drmoore) January 18, 2016

Evangelicals can love a golden calf, as long as Aaron promises to make Mexico pay for it.

— Russell Moore (@drmoore) January 18, 2016

Here’s the “Two Corinthians” part along with today’s speech in full. Exit question: Didn’t Jesus say in one of the gospels, “Deal from strength or get crushed every time”?

Donald Trump: "Two Corinthians..." (C-SPAN) (Video)
Full Speech: Donald Trump Speaks at Liberty University Convocation (1-18-16) (Video)

[perfect_rovian_storm]

So, can you explain to me why he voted for the Corker bill, which subverted the constitution to make CERTAIN the Iran deal (That Cruz claimed to be against) would be approved?

Why?

Everyone here on FR and pretty much everywhere else knows that Mitch McConnell is a lying rat and has for years. Why did Ted Cruz need to ‘trust him’ first in order to find that out for himself? Is he that naive? Or is he lying about it?

The more I hear from Ted Cruz, the less I trust him. And I was a Cruz or Lose guy up until the late summer/early fall.

[MamaB]

Go Trump. Did you check to see that this has been posted already?

[Chauncey Uppercrust]

There is no such thing as a nominal Christian, it`s just an invented term to describe deceived people that do not know the Lord.

For full disclosure I was raised in such a home.

So the problem here is the difference between a Born Again Christian and a “nominal Christian” only the Born Again Christian is actually saved.

If Donald Trump is as the article says not claiming to be a Born Again Christian, then he is Not a Christian,The Bible says we must be Born Again. We only have Christians and NON Christians

[outinyellowdogcountry]

I cannot explain. I will attempt to find out something. Thanks for the info.

[CrimsonTidegirl]

Is this the same Russell Moore that recently announced his support for illegal immigration? Moore really is a piece of work.

[perfect_rovian_storm]

Thanks :-)

If he was the only choice, I’d be overlooking those things like I have with Republican candidates in the past. At the end of the day, I don’t really blame others for doing the same.

But for me, I really feel that the chance we’re being given with Trump, to have a candidate who can be truly independent of the donors and special interests, is something I have to vote for.

I don’t pretend he’s the ‘true conservative’ (whatever that means these days...lol) and he’s not anyone’s Messiah, but he represents a new way of doing things.

Will that way be better? It remains to be seen. One thing I know for sure is that the old way sure isn’t working. :-)

[2ndDivisionVet]

Iowa Gov.: Cruz, Sanders have Iowa momentum
http://www.cnn.com/videos/tv/2016/01/15/iowa-governor-2016-terry-branstad-intv-lead.cnn

[outinyellowdogcountry]

I found an article by Andrew McCarthey on National Review online about that issue. He is a good source as far as I’m concerned. Jenifer Rubio was critical of Cruz vote but she is a mainstream R. Let me know what you think.

[dfwgator]

Is that like "Rich, Corinthian Leather"

[perfect_rovian_storm]

I’ll check them out in the am. :-)

[Jane Long]

Great video...thanks for posting, 2DV. You missed the gist of the Iowa Governor’s points, by just posting the tricky title of it. Here’s what the Gov went on to say....

Gov: His (CRuz) stand on renewable fuels REALLY hurt him.

Tapper: Ethanol.

Gov: Yes. Ethanol, uh, wind energy...he’s opposed to the wind energy tax. He’s opposed to the ethanol and bio-deisel and we have tens of thousands of jobs and a lot of farm incomes depending on that. I know there’s a lot of people working in those ethanol refineries that there are a lot of people who are NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR SOMEONE who opposes something that’s so important to our economy.

[2ndDivisionVet]

His son Eric is the head of the ethanol lobby. I’m from Iowa (1974 - 2002) so I know Terry Branstad.

[2ndDivisionVet]

His son Eric is the head of the ethanol lobby. I’m from Iowa (1974 - 2002) so I know Terry Branstad.

[Helvan]

Oh my Lord he said “two” not “second”... let me clutch my delicate precious conservative pearls while I regain my composure!

[TigersEye]

Wasn’t that in a Star Trek NG episode?

[Jane Long]

Okay. I’m just relaying what else the Gov said :)

[2ndDivisionVet]

That’s fine, not attacking anyone.

[Disestablishmentarian]

“Two Corinthians” has offended the Christian Pharisees.

[JudyinCanada]

Agreed. He considers himself a Christian, but may not even know what it really means. To me, that does not disqualify him from becoming president. Much like Rush Limbaugh, he knows who to defend, and he certainly seems to recognize evil. It would be wonderful if God used this whole episode in Mr. Trump’s colourful life to bring him to salvation.

[Cvengr]

So, to which verse in 2ndCor did he refer?