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Trump, April 15, 2009: 'I Don't March with the Tea Party'
The National Review ^ | January 19, 2016 | Jim Geraghty

Posted on 01/19/2016 7:41:57 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

Today's Morning Jolt looks at the rumors surrounding Trump's "major announcement and special guest."

If you consider Ted Cruz the conservative ideal or near-ideal in terms of philosophical grounding, legal perspective, and ideological rigor - and the case for that seems pretty self-evident - then watching Tea Party leaders flock to Trump over him is pretty damn disappointing.

April 15, 2009 is largely seen as the birth date of the Tea Party movement. Here's what Trump was saying that day about President Obama:

TRUMP: Well, I think he's sort of a guy that just has a wonderful personality, a good speaker, somebody that people trust. And I also think that the comparison with his predecessor is so different - it's so huge that it really has made a great impact on people.

I think that he's really doing a nice job in terms of representation of this country. And he represents such a large part of the country.

I mean, to think that a black man was going to be elected president - I watched television for years where the great political analysts were saying maybe in 50, maybe in 100 years.

Here's a man that not only got elected, I think he's doing a really good job.

Now, the sad part is that he can't just do a good job. He's got to do a great job. Because if he does a good job, that's not good enough for this country. That's how bad the country has become.

KING: Do you assess him as a champion?

TRUMP: Oh, yes, he's a champion. I mean, he won against all odds. If you would have looked - when he first announced, people were giving him virtually no chance. And he's just done something that's amazing.

KING: More on Donald Trump...

TRUMP: He's totally a champion.

Later in that interview:

KING: You're not going to march with the tea party?

TRUMP: I don't march with the tea party. But I'll tell you what, they have a good point, because when you see the kind of money that this country is - to use a horrible expression, Larry, I know you've never heard this - but that this country is pissing away, I can understand where they're coming from.

Trump went on to defend the TARP bailouts: "If they didn't stuff the banks with money, we'd be in depression number two right now, Larry. I mean, we would be strongly in depression number two. So they did the right thing in putting money into the banks."

Trump, the guy who hosted two fundraisers for Charlie Crist in 2009. He donated to Harry Reid over Sharron Angle in 2010.

Trump, the guy who donated $50,000 to make Rahm Emanuel the mayor of Chicago.

In the founding days of the Tea Party, Donald Trump was exactly what they were fighting agains... and now some of those adherents have embraced him fully.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: gopprimary; liberal; teaparty; theteedeeess; trump; trumpforcetrauma
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To: Smokin' Joe

That was a real kicker, wasn’t it?

Absolutely NY elitist.


21 posted on 01/19/2016 7:58:40 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Oh Noes! Trump is done!


Winners Aren't Losers or for that matter Cruzers!

22 posted on 01/19/2016 7:58:53 AM PST by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Trump is a chameleon.


23 posted on 01/19/2016 7:59:22 AM PST by erod (Chicago Conservative | Cruz or Lose!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Won’t matter. His fans have dug in their heels and are totally impervious to the evidence.


24 posted on 01/19/2016 8:00:44 AM PST by skeeter (Nasty Conservative for Cruz)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

My family members are Tea Party, they are as Radical, or Revolutionary as Bran Muffins. I want to burn the house down, they want to serve punch and cookies.


25 posted on 01/19/2016 8:01:28 AM PST by heights
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Trump never appeared at Tea party rallies cause he was too busy donating to leftists


26 posted on 01/19/2016 8:04:07 AM PST by RginTN
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To: mkjessup

Here is a very recent article in which Cruz praises Obama. Guess he can do it, but Trump can’t.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/02/ted-cruz-ronald-reagan-barack-obama-iowa-presidential-campaign


27 posted on 01/19/2016 8:06:21 AM PST by pugmama
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
TRUMP: Well, I think he's sort of a guy that just has a wonderful personality, a good speaker, somebody that people trust. And I also think that the comparison with his predecessor is so different - it's so huge that it really has made a great impact on people.

This dead horse will continue to get beaten indefinitely.

Communists, socialists and progressives view "evolving (changing)" as a good thing. But only for themselves.

If conditions change, only the subpar refuse to change and admit that that is not an error or hypocrisy, but new ways to solve new problems.

28 posted on 01/19/2016 8:06:48 AM PST by publius911 (IMPEACH HIM NOW! evil ignorant stupid or crazy-doesn't matter!)
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To: tennmountainman

Has trump changed on these positions? Why should I trust him over Cruz who has been consistent on the issues in this article all along?


29 posted on 01/19/2016 8:06:50 AM PST by JSDude1
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

It was enough to show me he talks a good game, but he really doesn’t know what the Obama years have done to America. He may see charts of the decline in jobs, manufacturing, mining, industry, etc., but does not understand at a visceral level what that does to people and families.


30 posted on 01/19/2016 8:07:51 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“KING: You’re not going to march with the tea party?

TRUMP: I don’t march with the tea party. But I’ll tell you what, they have a good point...”

Resulting headline

“Trump, April 15, 2009: ‘I Don’t March with the Tea Party’”


31 posted on 01/19/2016 8:08:52 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: TexasCajun
"Consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds..."
RWE
32 posted on 01/19/2016 8:10:15 AM PST by publius911 (IMPEACH HIM NOW! evil ignorant stupid or crazy-doesn't matter!)
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To: JSDude1

Yes, he has changed positions.

Have you taken your nerve pills yet?

I hear there might be big news coming out of Iowa today.

We shall see.


33 posted on 01/19/2016 8:10:31 AM PST by tennmountainman ("Prophet Mountainman" Predicter Of All Things RINO...for a small pittancez)
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To: pugmama

Cruz praises Obama’s tactics, not his character. Big difference.


34 posted on 01/19/2016 8:11:39 AM PST by skeeter (Nasty Conservative for Cruz)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Ahab Cincinatus' Wife obsessively paddles after her white whale. Episode #132

35 posted on 01/19/2016 8:13:36 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (As a representative of Earth, I officially welcome Global Warming to our planet)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Reminds me of Truman.

He denied giving ‘em He** and said “I just tell the truth and they THINK it’s He**.”

I’m no fan of Harry except for his leadership at the end of WW II, but the quote is a golden classic!

Everyone needs to read every word or listen to every word that has come from DT starting with the MTP interview with Russert embracing New York values and denying Iowa values and everything since then or before.

Read carefully.

Listen carefully.

And prayerfully.

Before giving your precious vote.


36 posted on 01/19/2016 8:18:11 AM PST by txrangerette (("...hold to the TRUTH; speak without fear". - Glenn Beck))
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To: odawg
It is very hard to square that effort with Cruz's claim that he has 'never supported legalization.'

It does if you're not brain dead and acknowledge that the "Trojan horse" of illegal immigration is that allowing the invaders to overwhelm Americans at the ballot box is the end of our country as we have known it.

Even a kindergartner can grasp the difference between "residency" and "citizenship!"

(That is, assuming that our elected criminals would never pass a "law" or an executive order eliminating citizenship as THE qualification for the vote.)

37 posted on 01/19/2016 8:19:23 AM PST by publius911 (IMPEACH HIM NOW! evil ignorant stupid or crazy-doesn't matter!)
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To: txrangerette

Indeed.

I traveled to D.C. years ago to join with other FReepers in the March for Justice - the fall of 1998.

And here we are 18 years later, watching as Donald Trump is being touted as a superior leader over Ted Cruz.

The mind reels.


38 posted on 01/19/2016 8:24:30 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Are you related to Glenn Beck? Or is that you Glenn?


39 posted on 01/19/2016 8:26:45 AM PST by McGruff (Born In The USA...Born In The USA)
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To: tennmountainman

We’re winning. Time to be magnanimous, IMO. I’m trying real hard not to take the troll bait because primaries will be over soon.


40 posted on 01/19/2016 8:27:03 AM PST by lodi90 (TRUMP Force 1 lifting off)
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