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Canada Set To Unleash Negative Interest Rates As Oil Patch Dies, Depression Deepens
Zero Hedge ^ | 01/19/2016 | Tyler Durden

Posted on 01/19/2016 3:59:55 PM PST by SeekAndFind

This Wednesday, the Bank of Canada has a decision to make.

Canada's oil "dream" is dying thanks to the inexorable slide in crude prices and as the IEA made clear earlier today, the pain is set to persist for the foreseeable future as the world "drowns in oversupply."

"Lower for longer" has hit the country's oil patch hard. We've spent quite a bit of time documenting the plight of Alberta, where job cuts tied to crude's slide have led directly to rising suicide rates, soaring property crime, and increased food bank usage (not to mention booming business for repo men).

Adding insult to injury for Canadians is the plunging loonie. Because the country imports most of its fresh fruits and vegetables, the weak currency has triggered a sharp increase in the price of many items in the grocery aisle as documented in a hilarious series of tweets by incredulous Canadian shoppers.

The question for the Bank of Canada is this: is the risk of an even weaker loonie worth taking if a rate cut has the potential to head off the myriad risks facing the economy?

We'll find out what the BOC thinks tomorrow, but in the meantime, analysts have weighed in. JP Morgan's Daniel Hui says CAD needs to fall further lest producers should simply close up shop. "[W]ith West Canada Select (WCS) now sitting just a dollar above the average per-barrel operational cost of $20 (Canadian), the risk is that any further decline will cause a whole new host of spillovers including potential shutdown and retrenchment of energy extraction and exports (with its attendant growth and balance of payment effects) or the potential of highly leveraged companies running operational losses, and the more contagious financial impact that might have in Canada, with broader spillovers."

None of those outcomes are particularly palatable. If the loonie continues to plunge however, it would act as a kind of shock absorber (producers' costs are predominantly in CAD terms whereas the crude they sell is obviously denominated in USD), keeping CAD-denominated prices above the marginal cost of production.

"One of the few scenarios that would keep bitumen producers above marginal cost amid a further decline in global energy prices, is for CAD to depreciate substantially and at a much higher beta to oil price than has been the case in the past 18 months," Hui adds, driving the point home.

But this is a Catch-22. The BOC can cut and drive the loonie even lower thus allowing zombie producers to keep pumping and thus prevent still more oil patch job losses, but a falling CAD may have undesirable knock-on effects, like reduced consumer spending, for instance. Additionally, if uneconomic producers keep drilling and pumping, they're just digging their own grave by contributing to an already oversupplied global market.

In short: there's no "right" answer. "Economists are united in one view, that new plunges in oil prices, in the Canadian dollar, and weaker global financial conditions, make the Bank of Canada's policy interest rate decision Wednesday a very close call," MNI writes.

"We now are looking for a rate cut next week," Bank of Montreal Chief Economist Douglas Porter told Market News. "We believe that the balance of weight has slightly tipped in favor of them going" for a rate cut, he added, pointing out that the market is pricing in a 50-50 chance of a BOC action this week.

Royal Bank of Canada assistant chief economist Paul Ferley, doesn't agree. "We think that Governor (Stephen) Poloz will maintain his confidence that growth in exports will counter weakening business investment and he will hold the rate steady," he says.

Perhaps, but as we noted early last month, the BOC has already hinted that Europe's not-so-grand experiment in the Keynesian Twilight Zone known as NIRP may be about to cross the pond. "The effective lower bound for policy rates is around -0.5%," governor Stephen Poloz said in December, setting the stage for negative rates in Canada.

For their part, IceCap Asset Management says NIRP is a virtual certainty for the BOC. Here's IceCap's straightforward, bullet point roadmap for Canadian monetary policy:

  1. Canadian economy to be in recession in 2016

  2. Bank of Canada will be at 0% interest rates in 2016

  3. Bank of Canada will be at NEGATIVE interest rates in later 2016

  4. Bank of Canada will be PRINTING MONEY in later 2016

Ahead of Wednesday's decision, Barclays is out with a preview and sure enough, NIRP makes a cameo.

"The BoC would need to cut at least 50bp this year to partially counteract the continued slide in crude oil prices," the bank begins, adding that although the price of Western Canadian Select (WCS) has fallen by half since the publication of the BoC's last Monetary Policy Report, "this has been only partially offset by the 8% nominal multilateral depreciation of the CAD."

To fully offset the effect on GDP, Barclays says "the BoC would need to cut policy rates by at least 50bp in 2016."

Yes, by "at least" 50bps, and that's assuming oil prices don't plunge further.

Of course 50bps puts the BOC at zero, so when Barclays says "at least", they mean NIRP is likely on the way. To wit:

The central bank has room to act even if rates hit zero. A 50bp cut in 2016 would bring the overnight rate to zero. The experience of countries like Switzerland, Sweden, Denmark and the euro area has taught central banks that zero is not the lower bound. The BoC estimates that the effective lower bound for Canada could be around -50bp, giving room for further cuts if needed. Without the immediate worry of hitting the effective lower bound, the central bank might be more willing to ease sooner rather than later.

 

There you have it. Of course it's difficult to see how 100bps of theoretical policy flexibility will be enough to keep the shut-ins from starting in the oil patch especially considering there's only a CAD1 cushion above the marginal cost of production and considering the outlook for oil prices is particularly bleak now that 500,000 b/d of new Iranian supply are coming to market. 

As for what the BOC does in the event Poloz hits the lower bound of -0.50% and the loonie still needs to weaken to offset the ill effects of declining crude, we'll leave you with one indelible image that should serve as a harbinger of what's to come...



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Canada; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: canada; cheap; daughters; economy; energy; interestrates; oil; service; slaves
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1 posted on 01/19/2016 3:59:55 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
This is Keynesianism taken to its ultimate insane limit. Take your money out of the bank and spend it because the bank will charge you a fee for storing it for you. Can Janet Yellen be far behind?
2 posted on 01/19/2016 4:06:07 PM PST by JoeFromSidney (,)
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To: JoeFromSidney

Time to buy stock in mattresses. :)


3 posted on 01/19/2016 4:07:14 PM PST by catfish1957 (I display the Confederate Battle Flag with pride in honor of my brave ancestors who fought w/ valor)
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To: SeekAndFind

Some places are charging negative amount for oil... In other words they will PAY YOU to take some off your hands.

I will take all they have- and donate it to the strategic national oil reserve


4 posted on 01/19/2016 4:08:30 PM PST by Mr. K (If it is HilLIARy -vs- Jeb! then I am writing-in Palin/Cruz)
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To: SeekAndFind

What’s Cruz’s position on this?


5 posted on 01/19/2016 4:08:34 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: SeekAndFind

You can not make socialist happy. For years they have been telling us to cut back and conserve... and look what happens when we do. /s


6 posted on 01/19/2016 4:13:48 PM PST by CIB-173RDABN (I think it would be ironic if Hillary was arrested the day after she secures the nomination.)
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To: SeekAndFind

All perfectly timed for the new Communist Prime Minister.


7 posted on 01/19/2016 4:20:33 PM PST by headstamp 2
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To: JoeFromSidney

It’s called “deflation”, and was behind the decision of the Federal Government to make ownership of gold illegal for US Citizens, except for certain very limited purposes. Simultaneously, the price of gold was artificially raised from $20 per ounce to $32 per ounce, effectively becoming a devaluation of the dollar against all other currencies. Without gold in circulation, this effectively kicked the US currency into free fall, but because few people had cash reserves of any magnitude, prices also fell, sometimes sharply, all through the years of the Great Depression, and did not recover until the US ramped up industrial production to sell (for silver pound sterling exchange) to the British to supply armaments in their fight against Nazi Germany. The belated entry into the war, on December 8, 1941, found the US military establishment still woefully undermanned and unready for engagement with the Japanese in the Pacific and the Wehrmacht in Europe.

We cuffing near lost that war. Only our isolation and the broad ocean on both coasts prevented a widespread invasion.


8 posted on 01/19/2016 4:30:15 PM PST by alloysteel (If I considered the consequences of my actions, I would rarely do anything.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m old enough to remember long lines at the gas pumps in the 70’s. At that time, we were told oil was a limited commodity and would soon run out. Yet, here we are 45 years later and we have and oil glut. How can this be?!? Is it possible the Malthusian “experts” don’t have a clue? People like Paul Erlich and Al Gore pontificate on how things will be dire in 10 or 20 years, yet when the time goes by, and NONE of their predictions are close to right, media types go back to ask them for more follow-up “expert” advice. I’m an engineer and if I was as totally off-base in my work as they are, I would be drummed out of the profession.


9 posted on 01/19/2016 5:33:48 PM PST by JohnEBoy
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To: SeekAndFind

How is the sale of those carbon credits in fancy paper going?


10 posted on 01/19/2016 5:50:29 PM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: SeekAndFind
Soon, Canadians will do anything for an American dollar.


11 posted on 01/19/2016 7:13:15 PM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." --Costco greeter in "Idiocracy")
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To: familyop

Maybe for a very brief moment (as far as history is concerned) however our nothing backed dollar is on the verge of being replaced as the world reserve. Once that happens (and it will), hello Wiemar.

I’m long wheelbarrows.


12 posted on 01/19/2016 7:17:49 PM PST by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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To: Mr. K
I will take all they have- and donate it to the strategic national oil reserve

I hope you are sitting down. Part of the Ryan budget was to sell off part of the strategic reserve to balance their budget.

The Uniparty is intentionally destroying the country.
13 posted on 01/19/2016 7:19:54 PM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media. #2ndAmendmentMatters)
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To: SeekAndFind

When you go to the pump to fill up your car you pay the price on the pump. The price can affect how much you buy, but that’s the recreational amount. There is a base amount of gas you need to go to work go to the store to buy food, etc. That amount of gas you buy doesn’t change much, only the gas for recreation is optional. It’s not the average driver manipulating the price. Year to year we probably buy the same, give or take 10% or 20%.


14 posted on 01/19/2016 7:25:45 PM PST by r_barton ("Trump" word origin "Triumph" - Merriam-Webster Dictionary)
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To: PA Engineer

A budget needs first defined before they can balance one.

In other words, I agree with you; purpose driven destruction. DC is spending into oblivion as though there is no “tomorrow”. Kinda makes you think; if you’re paying attention. (<— not directed “at you”)

At this point, it is about setting up your offspring to simply survive in hopes you can preserve some wealth for the grandkids and even then, more probable the great-grandkids before anything can be realized.


15 posted on 01/19/2016 7:27:30 PM PST by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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To: r_barton

Gas prices effects the type of vehicles bought. Right now I predict the average MPG of the US fleet to go up significant over the next year. So demand is not static but it changes with price.


16 posted on 01/19/2016 7:29:27 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Ghost of SVR4
At this point, it is about setting up your offspring to simply survive in hopes you can preserve some wealth for the grandkids and even then, more probable the great-grandkids before anything can be realized.

I agree. I guess budget was a bad choice. This is the corporatist vultures consuming what is left of the American economy.
17 posted on 01/19/2016 7:30:01 PM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media. #2ndAmendmentMatters)
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To: central_va

With high car prices and 5, 6 or 7 year loans cars stay on the road longer. More higher mileage cars come into play each year, but not right away. It’s a slow phase in.


18 posted on 01/19/2016 7:34:13 PM PST by r_barton ("Trump" word origin "Triumph" - Merriam-Webster Dictionary)
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To: JoeFromSidney
The last time negative interest rates were discussed here on FR, I simply noted that I work for a very large, international bank and that preparations for negative interest rates were already in place.

IIRC, that was about the time of the Cyprus & Greece being in the news. Greece for its unmanageable (and un-repayable) debt and Cyprus raiding depositor bank accounts (three years ago this March.)

Well, here we are. Banking systems are all ready to charge negative interest rates for NON-HIGH WEALTH RETAIL BANK ACCOUNTS (ie: you and I) while the multi-millionaires and billionaires continue to get the "high wealth" treatment vis a vis paid junkets to golf championships, someone to wash their boats, walk their dogs and more --- all for free --- while the rest of us are being prodded to spend our money, presumably to prop up the economy.

Warned y'all almost three years ago now. It's coming. Sooner than most people think. If you think paying high fees for your checking account was bad, just WAIT for being charged the "privilege" of depositing your money at one of the TOO BIG TO FAIL banks.

19 posted on 01/19/2016 7:35:34 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: SeekAndFind

Commodity-driven economies are starting a downward slide around the world, it’s happening at the state level within the United States as well, in regions that have weathered poor economic conditions pretty well up to now.


20 posted on 01/19/2016 7:37:45 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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