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Oh Dear – Mark Levin Credibility Melts Like Glenn Beck Tears (tr)
The Last Refuge ^ | January 21, 2016 | sundance

Posted on 01/22/2016 4:08:30 AM PST by monkapotamus

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To: BlackElk
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381 posted on 01/24/2016 7:03:20 PM PST by bushpilot2
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382 posted on 01/24/2016 7:07:58 PM PST by bushpilot2
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To: BlackElk

Just wow!

That is so totally off the mark in response to what I posted that it hardly merits this response.


383 posted on 01/25/2016 4:50:00 AM PST by jurroppi1 (The only thing you "pass to see what's in it" is a stool sample. h/t MrB)
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It was my response to the words you posted. If you were not posting Birtherism, I apologize, but your post suggests Birtherism and reliance on some non-authoritative gummint brochure as though it were a source of law which it certainly is not.


384 posted on 01/25/2016 10:36:12 AM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline: Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society/Rack 'em Danno!)
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To: bushpilot2
that's nice and it still ignores the constitution. You don't really suppose that posting and re-posting ad infinitum ad nauseam every scrap of paper that has ever been purported to support the curious irrelevant fantasies of Birtherism. This quote does not even qualify at that low standard.

Ted Cruz's mother was born in Delaware of two American parents (one would have sufficed but she had two) and has NEVER relinquished that US citizenship. She was raised in Delaware until she moved to go to Texas for college. I am going to assume that if she moved to Canada immediately, she was more than five years a resident of Delaware since she did not enter Baylor at 5 years of age or less. Likewise, it seems likely that since she graduated high school in Delaware, at least two of the five years AFTER her fourteenth birthday (this is an irrational classification required by an unconstitutional gender based impermissibly discriminatory statute that applied only to moms and not dads). Additionally, Teds mother graduated college in Texas, at Baylor University IIRC, and that would have taken normally another five years, all before Ted was born as a Natural Born American citizen in Canada. One American parent is all it took. The bureaucratic BS in the final paragraph of your cut and paste of a non-authoritative document from DOJ applies only to those being "naturalized." Elizabeth Taylor, born a Brit citizen in Great Britain of two British parents could only obtain US citizenship by "naturalization." Ted Cruz is a NBC and needs no such red tape any more than did Obozo, McCain, George Romney or Lowell P. Weicker, Jr.

Every court called upon to adjudicate this issue as to POTUS candidates has pointedly REFUSED to agree with this Birther nonsense. Obozo is POTUS whether we like it or not until his successor is inaugurated in a bit less than one more year. At that point, hopefully, Ted Cruz will be sworn in as POTUS (whether our and our nation's liberal and Islamofascist and Marxist enemies like it or not and they won't), reverse much of the executive tyranny of the preceding 8 (or 16 or 24 or 28) years. Our long national nightmare will largely be over the old fashioned way by a quadrennial POTUS election clearly envisioned by the constitution and the Founding Fathers. Ours is a democratic republic and that is how democratic republics change leaders and dance. It beats the hell out of being governed by magic lightning from the judicial sky or bowels or, as the Donald might say, from the judicial wherever. Of course it requires more than being a Keyboard Kommando. It requires old-fashioned political effort.

385 posted on 01/25/2016 11:02:38 AM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline: Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society/Rack 'em Danno!)
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Was Wong Kim Ark running for POTUS? Language about US law as to Americans born abroad was NOT before the Court. Can you spell DICTA? Do you know what it means in this context?

It does not matter how you answer those questions. You have wasted entirely too much of my time over the last two days with this Birther fantasy. I have said what I have to say and far more than I need to say. Au revoir! You need not answer and, if you do, I see no further reason to answer you.

Time to move on to more productive issues. If your hero is "elected" because he has purported to disqualify the only remaining actual conservative, and should (extremely unlikely) obtain the connivance of corrupt courts, I will await with eager anticipation the disappointment of those "conservatives" who somehow believe that he s cognizably "conservative." Good luck with that.

I am willing to vote for the poseur ONLY because he is not the Arkansas Medusa or Comrade Bernie or Nanny Bloomberg and that is a provisional decision which is not set in concrete. The more Trump and his supporters aggravate me with this irrelevant Birther crap, the less likely I am not to vote my heart for Eternal Vigilance as I did in 2012.

386 posted on 01/25/2016 11:36:59 AM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline: Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society/Rack 'em Danno!)
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To: bushpilot2

Oh, and since 2 PM yesterday, this thread has been just me and thee and now (understandably) it will be just thee! Ciao!


387 posted on 01/25/2016 11:40:28 AM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline: Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society/Rack 'em Danno!)
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To: BlackElk

It’s very obvious our laws mean nothing to you. Rogers v Bellei referenced Wong Kim Ark.


388 posted on 01/25/2016 2:18:13 PM PST by bushpilot2
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Actually, it is pretty typical that our government would leave some fruit like that hanging where it would have the most impact towards any immigrants’ teaching and understanding of the constitutional requirement and then argue otherwise everywhere else.

The double standard is what kills me.

The statement had to have come from somewhere. The fact that it is still there means someone in the INS still believes that to be the proper interpretation.


389 posted on 01/26/2016 6:05:12 AM PST by jurroppi1 (The only thing you "pass to see what's in it" is a stool sample. h/t MrB)
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