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To: free_life; All
Here is a very good article on the prophesies of Mike Bickle. Keep in mind, a quick search of the internet will show you that the "Kansas City Prophets" have all been exposed as fraudulent. Some exposed for other horrible things (infidelity, homosexuality, etc.) A great article on IHOP was written by John Park of the Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry...

The Dangers of the International House of Prayer (IHOP)
18 posted on 01/22/2016 3:02:34 PM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

You mentioned all of the Apostles called out false teachers and false prophets. So who do you consider true teachers and prophets living today?


20 posted on 01/22/2016 3:55:07 PM PST by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

I will read it out of respect and because I cannot give comment on it without reading it, but I have read this stuff before about Bickle and it has always been inaccurate with outright lies mixed in.

Have you ever been to IHOP? Have you ever been to a church affiliated with IHOP? If not how are you sure Bickle is false and IHOP is a cult?

I have never been to IHOP, but have been many times to a church affiliated with IHOP and another one affiliated a few times. I am not a member of either of those churches though. I have very close friends that are members of the one I have been to many times. They are some of the most faithful, wholehearted, genuine Christians have ever met. I also know about 20 others who attend that same IHOP affiliated church. All people I respect and love. I know a lot of young adults who have gone to IHOP in Kansas and some who have interned there. Great faithful Christians, some of whom are or have been part of the ministry I lead.

I have been to IHOP.org and watched and listened to their live streaming 24/7 prayer room, with worship and occasionally teaching. It is wonderful, nothing false I have seen or heard. Maybe have a look.

I have listened to audio or video, and read probably 20 or more of Mike Bickles teachings and they were excellent, especially the ones on Intimacy with God and Eschatology. A few very minor things I would disagree on but nothing false stands out.

I have heard the leader teacher of the IHOP affiliated church here probably 40 or more times. Excellent teacher and a good man of God. A few minor things I would disagree with him on but I think you would probably agree with him on those things (most Christians do), where I disagree with him.

I have noticed something at IHOP, Bickle and the church here which is prevalent with a great many churches and denominations (maybe yours too). There is an undercurrent that they are ahead of other believers in the truth, in their worship, in their prayers and understanding of the Word of God is superior to all other believers, churches, denominations. I have noticed that same thinking in other denominations as being even more prevalent, stronger than at IHOP and this affiliated church. Which denomination are you with again?


23 posted on 01/22/2016 4:24:08 PM PST by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Okay, here are my two thoughts.

I don’t necessarily trust CARM. They lied about and twisted a legitimate bible teacher I know of.

However, if this is true I am afraid I would agree that he is bad news.


28 posted on 01/22/2016 4:54:03 PM PST by American Faith Today
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Read it. Lots of unfounded accusations, no evidence, no source links, just some others who think like John Park. Have seen this before, because they have some doctrinal differences they (Mr. Slick..John Park..a few others) go on the attack and demonize people with no evidence.

Where are the source links of Bickle saying this or that along with the full context? They don’t exist is my guess. Bickle has hundreds of written and audio and video teachings on internet (for free) if he is what they say why are they not linking to his false teaching? If you actually have some such source links, I will read them with a open mind because I love the truth. But these kind of FALSE accusations are terribly wrong and should not be happening in the body of Christ. I am not interested in this guy or that guy making claims against Bickle or any one else unless they have solid proof of such claims. You would do well to avoid following such false people, I see no evidence they have the Spirit of Christ.


38 posted on 01/22/2016 8:02:05 PM PST by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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