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NYPD: 'We Will Arrest You' If On the Road
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Posted on 01/23/2016 7:14:18 PM PST by matt04

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To: Duchess47
This is probably a very stupid question. Why don’t they have chain laws there? Out here we close roads to any traffic without chains or snow tires, when it gets really bad, chains required. 18 wheelers out here drive with chains hanging from the side and pull over and chain up when required.

I had to look it up because I have seen them on buses in the past. It is an odd law. You may use them during a snow emergency. They must be used on at least two tires during a snow emergency on a snow emergency route.

The Turnpike may have their own rules and could be related to road damage. I think the restriction of only during a snow emergency may not have left the truckers time to put them on.

This was a surprise to many out there. I'll keep an eye on the papers and follow up with a State Trooper I know. This is an odd situation.
61 posted on 01/23/2016 9:04:45 PM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media. #2ndAmendmentMatters)
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To: PA Engineer

Thank you for checking. I really have never understood that.


62 posted on 01/23/2016 9:08:38 PM PST by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: matt04

Hillary is the exception. She can drive while drunk - hit people walking on the street and kill school children by mowing them over...

The laws don’t apply to Hillary because she’s a friggin’ witch and all the little munchkins are afraid of her.


63 posted on 01/23/2016 9:13:25 PM PST by GOPJ (It's more important to have a gun in your hand than a cop on the phone- Florida Sheriff Grady Judd)
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To: relictele

While someone is having a heart attack.


64 posted on 01/23/2016 9:13:31 PM PST by firebrand
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To: firebrand

Fallacy of the dramatic example.


65 posted on 01/23/2016 9:22:19 PM PST by relictele (Principiis obsta & Finem respice - Resist The Beginnings & Consider The Ends)
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To: Duchess47
Thank you for checking. I really have never understood that.

Two other points I just found out. They were banned from buses and a snow emergency may not have been declared.
66 posted on 01/23/2016 9:25:29 PM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media. #2ndAmendmentMatters)
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To: PA Engineer

It must be a road damage thing, that’s the only thing I can think of. Yes, chains are hard on roads but it gets us safely from point A to B out here without hours or days stuck on the highway.


67 posted on 01/23/2016 9:29:10 PM PST by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: matt04

Commie mayors are so nice to their subjects, aren’t they?

Common sense says not to drive if you have two feet of snow on the roads. I don’t need a nannystate Sandinsta-loving, Cuba-Honeymooning Commie telling me to stay off the roads.


68 posted on 01/23/2016 9:31:58 PM PST by NYRepublican72 (Democrats -- it's always someone else's fault.)
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To: matt04

How are they supposed to plow the roads if they are littered with abandoned or stuck vehicles?


69 posted on 01/23/2016 9:34:07 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: matt04

We are getting these bans now because the system no longer works. Govt is getting more and more inept in providing basic services. We had 30” and two or three passes of a plow during the 18 hours of the storm would have provided for passable roads for 4x4’s.


70 posted on 01/23/2016 10:25:39 PM PST by cassiusking
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To: matt04

Finally, they are gonna let people drive on the sidewalks! *bada*boom*kisk*


71 posted on 01/23/2016 10:43:05 PM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: matt04

Darn that global warming!


72 posted on 01/23/2016 11:07:15 PM PST by Zack Attack
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To: Lazamataz

Try to arrest me and I will kill you.

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Is that you Hillary?


73 posted on 01/23/2016 11:14:37 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Bill and Hillary Clinton are the penicillin-resistant syphilis of our political system.)
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To: relictele

We care. You obviously don’t.


74 posted on 01/24/2016 4:31:49 AM PST by firebrand
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To: firebrand

This will be my last post on the subject but it seems you are missing the point, perhaps because it is incongruent with specious claims of moral superiority and empathy. Nobody, including me, is in favor of death, delays, inconveniences, cold feet or stale bagels.

What we are less in favor of is government constantly asserting its importance and primacy regardless of the circumstance. We are even less in favor of government issuing threats. This site exists specificially to oppose these ideas and tactics.

The dramatic ‘if it saves one life’ canard has been used to justify soft tyranny in this so-called free nation for decades. It has resulted in appalling government overreach that has been accepted by far too many people.

Individuals may show concern and justifiably so but they seem to believe that government’s version of concern is of the same flavor and purity as theirs, merely collected and concentrated when quite the opposite is true.

Officialdom is worried about officialdom. It is focused on its own importance. Its actions and reactions are rarely, if ever, proportional to the stated problem, even a widespread one.

In all candor, it puzzles and alarms me when any user of this site who is presumably conservative, libertarian, etc. suddenly condones government hegemony due to a newsworthy local event, however dangerous. It seems to say that such principles and being responsble for one’s own actions should be disposed of the moment public employees make draconian pronouncements.


75 posted on 01/24/2016 5:09:13 AM PST by relictele (Principiis obsta & Finem respice - Resist The Beginnings & Consider The Ends)
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To: relictele

There are many instances on FR where freepers from other parts of the country do not understand New York.

In this case, it is not a matter of “if one life can be saved,” because as I already explained we have an emergency every 15 minutes. The area that I live in has a population density of 110,000 people per square mile.

I do not think this particular edict was overreach. Last evening there were people all over the streets, walking their dogs, letting their children out after a day of being cooped up, even cross-country skiing I was told (although some out-of-towner on Facebook suggested that Trump shoot them with a tranquilizer dart). I’m guessing that the rule will be lifted as soon as the streets are sufficiently plowed.

We have to care about one another here, because with so many people living here situations can soon devolve into tragedy. The one thing de Blasio has done right is to take drastic measure when lives are in danger. I wish he had more concern for the Constitution as well, but in this case he was right.


76 posted on 01/24/2016 5:21:05 AM PST by firebrand
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What's all that white stuff?
77 posted on 01/24/2016 5:24:55 AM PST by conservativeimage (I won't go underground. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wema3CNqzvg)
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To: matt04
I have seen interstates closed in Wyoming and Montana due to bad weather (Blizzards), too. It becomes a question of having to risk the lives of those going out to save yours because you thought your Dodge Neon was vehicle enough to bust drifts or shutting the road down.

I got back on the highway outside Sheridan, WY one year during the hour they opened it before closing it again, and was nearly to Glendive, MT (about 275 miles) before I actually saw pavement. Ice and snow the whole way. Not for people who aren't good at it or who don't have the right vehicle.

78 posted on 01/24/2016 5:29:20 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: conservativeimage.com
What's all that white stuff?

Privilege.

79 posted on 01/24/2016 5:32:22 AM PST by Fightin Whitey
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To: Cold Heat

you obviously are speaking about that which you know nothing.

one tractor trailer sideways on the interstate blocks both lanes preventing rescue of all behind it for maybe 50 miles. then there is likely three or 4 cars that hit each other and others skidding into the median to avoid contact. it is a bad mess that requires tow trucks that can’t get there because of the snow and snarled traffic

One driver skids off the road and ends up backwards in the median and unable to move but has a cell phone and whines miserably for rescue.

all the cops are not enough to get to the numerous accidents to get the interstate up and running and then there is more snow .


80 posted on 01/24/2016 5:45:40 AM PST by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;+12, 73, ....carson is the kinder gentler trump.)
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