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To: JayGalt

Not going to argue with you, Both of Teds parents lived in the United States and are naturalized. Ted being born in Canada only gives him duel citizenship. There is no grounds for this discussion. Trump is flapping his big mouth, there is no legal grounds, it is settled. Trump said so himself in September, now he, Trump is flip floping because he is afraid of losing.


189 posted on 01/25/2016 11:39:36 AM PST by exnavy (good gun control: two hands, one shot, one kill.)
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To: exnavy

To be a Natural Born Subject or Citizen of a particular country means to be born into and under the full allegiance of a particular country. It is distinct from a citizen who may obtain the rights of citizenship by right of statute. Ted was, without any doubt, born into the allegiance of Canada and, by their own laws, he is considered a Natural Born Citizen of Canada.


195 posted on 01/25/2016 11:46:31 AM PST by RC one ("...all persons born in the allegiance of the United States are natural-born citizens" US v. WKA)
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To: exnavy

There are plenty of grounds and many of the legal scholars are in agreement that its a big issue for the reasons I have outlined above. The only reason to say there’s no issue is if you have a dog in the fight.

I do have a dog in the fight and its America. The Constitution was laid out very carefully by the people who birthed this Nation, a unique and precious Nation. The Founders discussed at length in documented correspondence why they had a different standard of citizenship for the Presidency/Vice Presidency to protect our Nation from from a leader who had divided loyalties and foreign influences.

There would be no need for the words Natural Born Citizen if the phrase did not have a discrete meaning. It does and its as I outlined earlier born to citizen parents on American soil. I’m sorry Cruz supporters don’t like it but there it is.

One of the eminent legal scholars who incidentally was Cruz’s mentor at Harvard, Laurence H. Tribe, has recently made a statement “Under Ted Cruz’s own logic, he’s ineligible for the White House.” In the article, Tribe calls into question Cruz’s consistency in interpreting the Constitution. Tribe has a more nuanced view himself because he is one of the living Constitution folks who believes we rewrite the Constitution freely to serve our own cause.


201 posted on 01/25/2016 11:54:33 AM PST by JayGalt
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