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PETER SCHIFF: We're Going To Have An Economic Collapse And Negative Rates Before The Election
BI ^ | 1-29-2016 | Bob Bryan

Posted on 01/29/2016 12:01:58 PM PST by blam

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To: proxy_user

Sub 1% economic growth and rapid deflation of commodity prices.

Some economists think we’re either already on the precipice of an economic collapse or very, very close to it.

I’d posted several times in the past six months that the big banks (I work for one) already have their systems setup for negative interest rates and have tested their systems to handle it as well.

You and I may not directly see a negative interest rate, rather we may see new “deposit fees” for putting money in an account, “transfer fees” for transferring money from one account to another, whether within the same bank or between banks, and other new types of “fees.”

When you see those fees start being implemented, negative interest rates won’t be far behind. It’s all part of the grand plan to separate you and I from more of our money, and enable the government to force us to spend our money “for sake of the economy and jobs.”

Why not? They forced Obamacare on us! This is all just th next logical step in central management and planning of our economy!!L


21 posted on 01/29/2016 12:38:12 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Alberta's Child

“The U.S. is facing a future demographic disaster. In Japan, it’s already here.”

Japan’s demographic problems are very different from ours. Japan has a rapidly aging population coupled with an extremely low birth rate and very little in-migration. By 2100, its population will likely be 20% lower than it is today. The problem for the U.S. is that its growing population (primarily through recent and likely future immigration) will be, on average, relatively less well-educated, less skilled, and therefore poorer than it is today.


22 posted on 01/29/2016 12:41:04 PM PST by riverdawg
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To: Undecided 2012

oh it’s coming, negative rates until 2017 then the freefall all blamed on Republicans.


Call me an optimist, but I firmly believe that if we can hang on until the election, Trump will save the day. That is not my childlike intellect making that statement, but common sense. Trump is a business man and knows how to fix, and who can can fix. There will be a new sheriff in town, the losers will be gone, and everyone will want to be in on the action...Just hang on.


23 posted on 01/29/2016 12:43:58 PM PST by AFret.
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To: Night Hides Not
The good news for me is that Howard Ruff doesn't know where I live anymore...lol.

Well-played!

24 posted on 01/29/2016 12:47:01 PM PST by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: usconservative

I think the consumer will step up with the low gas prices and cheap commodities. At least enough to stave off a recession. As for the govt. debt? We can kick that can down the road a lot further than many people think. Not forever, but darn near.


25 posted on 01/29/2016 12:48:53 PM PST by cornfedcowboy
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To: DesertRhino

They have more old people wearing Depends than they have babies wearing diapers. There’s nothing “kinky” about it.


26 posted on 01/29/2016 12:50:55 PM PST by laplata ( Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: riverdawg

You are correct. We’ll have plenty of younger workers but our overall standard of living will fall dramatically.


27 posted on 01/29/2016 12:52:59 PM PST by laplata ( Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: blam

Schiff is not the only forecaster saying this. Personally I think we are in the beginning of a deflationary depression. China is probably not going to have a soft landing. This is a global slowdown not just the US.


28 posted on 01/29/2016 12:55:50 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
However it may be a choice between lose a little in a savings account versus lose your shirt in the stock market.

Not me...I'm going to entrust all of my money to these annuity companies...lol, like the one whose CEO looks like he's 20, with a female rep that looks even younger.

I see an upcoming episode of American Greed in a few years.

29 posted on 01/29/2016 12:57:07 PM PST by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Mississippi! My vote is going to Cruz.)
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30 posted on 01/29/2016 12:57:08 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Free Republic Caucus: vote daily / watch for the thread / Starts 01/20 midnight to midnight EST)
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To: riverdawg
You're right on Japan wrong on the U.S. Actually, you're right on the U.S. -- put that's not really a demographic problem as I would characterize it.

Japan's growth is stunted because its population is shrinking. U.S. growth is stunted because much of our population growth is in groups that are not productive.

31 posted on 01/29/2016 1:02:14 PM PST by Alberta's Child (My mama said: "To get things done, you'd better not mess with Major Tom.")
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To: Alberta's Child

U.S. growth is stunted because much of our population growth is in groups that are not productive.”

Well, I think that much of our population growth is in groups that will be relatively less productive than the average of the previous three or four generations so I think we agree except with my calling this a “demographic” problem.


32 posted on 01/29/2016 1:05:46 PM PST by riverdawg
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To: blam

That collapse has been fewer than twelve months coming for the past five years, according to the raft of e-mails I get daily offering to tell me how to thrive through it, if I just watch their 35 minute video.


33 posted on 01/29/2016 1:07:02 PM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: odawg

She’s stock-y now so that must be a secret message.


34 posted on 01/29/2016 1:23:32 PM PST by COUNTrecount (Race Baiting...... "It's What's For Breakfast")
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To: gwjack

An important component of any plan is to buy more ammo. Friday is a great day to buy more ammo.

Gwjack


35 posted on 01/29/2016 1:26:33 PM PST by gwjack (May God give America His richest blessings.)
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To: blam

Last month when the Federal Reserve raised interest rates, the yield on U.S. 10-year Treasury bonds was 2.25%. Today, it’s 1.92%. No wonder people are worried about negative interest rates.

In the meantime, everyone who buys U.S. Treasury bonds now will receive 33 basis points less in interest than they would have if they’d bought them last month. And what will stop this trend from continuing and thereby discouraging potential U.S. bond buyers from looking elsewhere for better investments?


36 posted on 01/29/2016 2:14:26 PM PST by Bluestocking
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To: Alberta's Child
It is being reported today that Taiwan has entered recession. I have followed the Bloomberg economic calender for quite a while now. 8 of 10 indices's report negative and more times than not, report unexpectedly worse reports than consensus.

We all know multiple massive market interventions by the Federal Reserve has given a false sense of security. The growth in the markets were not organic in nature.

Time and again throughout the last several years corporations have readjusted projections for profits/revenue. The markets would react positively to earnings that met or exceeded “already lowered guidance”.

The Federal Reserve raised interest rates for one reason and one reason alone...they needed some sort of smidgen of room to help battle the impending recession. They knew this, but draped it in Fed speak to disguise the true condition of the economy.

Just as Schiff commented, the increase in consumer spending was the result of increased healthcare cost. Not the first economist I heard say this exact thing.

37 posted on 01/29/2016 2:14:42 PM PST by servantboy777
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten

The bank of Sealy Posturpedic won’t ever charge negative interest


38 posted on 01/29/2016 3:26:10 PM PST by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: silverleaf

It may come to that - it certainly has before.


39 posted on 01/29/2016 3:40:14 PM PST by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: Alberta's Child; laplata
"Some towns don’t even have any school-age kids anymore."

Yup. Some towns with only half the people that were there just a few years ago. What will that do to house prices?

40 posted on 01/29/2016 4:01:35 PM PST by blam (Jeff Sessions For President)
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