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Trump on Drugs - The Donald adopts another dumb Democrat health care position.
TAS ^ | 1 Feb 16 | David Catron

Posted on 02/01/2016 2:41:34 AM PST by elhombrelibre

Donald Trump has never met a dumb health care idea he didn’t like. We learned during the first GOP debate that he has an affinity for Scotland’s incredibly dysfunctional system of socialized medicine. We have subsequently discovered that he would replace Obamacare with “something terrific,” the details of which he still declines to reveal except to say that “the government’s gonna pay for it.” Now Trump has endorsed another bad idea that Democrats — including Hillary Clinton, Bernie Sanders, and Barack Obama — have long advocated despite evidence that it won’t work and could reduce access to crucial medications for millions of seniors.

Trump’s latest brainstorm is to permit Medicare to “negotiate” prices directly with pharmaceutical companies. He claims that this would save us YUGE amounts of money “by getting discounts as the biggest buyer of prescription drugs.” Because he is notoriously lazy about doing his homework, Trump doesn’t understand that Medicare does not negotiate prices. The Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) uses the leverage of the federal government to dictate prices. This is how CMS gets away with paying health care providers less than cost (and I do mean cost, not charges) for treating Medicare patients.

And, like all government price control schemes, this has created shortages. It is why Medicare patients have long endured a shortage of primary care physicians. Given the authority that Trump advocates, CMS would dictate absurdly low prices, whereupon the drug industry would stop offering medications on which they are thus denied a profit. To protect seniors from the resultant drug shortages, and prevent the stifling effect it would have on innovation, Congress prohibited CMS from engaging in direct negotiation with pharmaceutical companies in 2003, when it expanded the Medicare program to cover prescription medications via Part D.

(Excerpt) Read more at spectator.org ...


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1 posted on 02/01/2016 2:41:34 AM PST by elhombrelibre
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To: elhombrelibre

The Spectator starts out with a lie in its first paragraph and then expects its readers to keep on from there. Pretty sure I just saw a damn interview with Trump where he specifically rejected single payer and explained his position, but these schmucks are still claiming that Trump supports single payer? Screw the Spectator and these constant anti-Trump propaganda threads.


2 posted on 02/01/2016 2:44:07 AM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

This is the season for lies. Even people you would expect to be interested in truth wave off efforts to dig into it.

We might or might not get Donald Trump as president, but whoever does get there, the whole thing threatens to be surrounded by packs of lies so thick that you can hardly see what is going on.


3 posted on 02/01/2016 2:47:17 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
Trump addressed single payer in this documentary. No lies, just quotes, which will no doubt be unbelievable to you. What you going to believe, your own eyes and ears or what Trump says now?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcUCLwWCihE

4 posted on 02/01/2016 2:49:25 AM PST by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution. Go Cruz.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
No lies - just quotes. Believe your own eyes and ears.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcUCLwWCihE

5 posted on 02/01/2016 2:50:54 AM PST by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution. Go Cruz.)
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To: elhombrelibre
Trump addressed single payer in this documentary. No lies, just quotes,

We've discussed the context of these quotes long before in MANY threads, but for some odd reason you think a heavily edited campaign video is supposed to be the definitive answer?

Shut up and grow up!

6 posted on 02/01/2016 2:51:05 AM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: elhombrelibre

Another nail trump piece. They will be all over to convince his Iowa supporters to not back him and go for the new flavor of the week-—Marco Rubio.


7 posted on 02/01/2016 2:53:22 AM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll Onward! Ride to the sound of the guns!)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
You're in denial. It's okay. You cannot process what you're seeing and hearing due to cognitive dissonance. No one seeing the parts of that film would conclude Trump is taken out of context. In addition, he continues to say he's for big government socialized single payer medical care. And telling a person siting Trump's biography is rich. See the link.

http://spectator.org/articles/65335/grow

8 posted on 02/01/2016 2:54:15 AM PST by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution. Go Cruz.)
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To: elhombrelibre
You're in denial. It's okay. You cannot process what you're seeing and hearing due to cognitive dissonance. No one seeing the parts of that film would conclude Trump is taken out of context

Of course they won't, since that's the point of a campaign commercial. People who are not filthy liars like unto you would read the entire transcript of the conversation and thus conclude differently.

9 posted on 02/01/2016 2:56:28 AM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: elhombrelibre

TAS - The American Spectator; I guess if this is a common abbreviation, that is one thing. I thought of something else but I usually always enjoy the articles the Poster posts.


10 posted on 02/01/2016 2:57:09 AM PST by BeadCounter (,)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
Apparently, you're one of the few who can conclude Trump is really saying the opposite of his own words. This quote is from an eminent conservative historian today:

"Where Mussolini was hard to pin down in the political spectrum between the socialist newspaper editor and right-wing dictator, Trump has embraced universal healthcare for all, then said that it’s too expensive, then said that he was in favour of comprehensive health insurance for every American."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/donald-trump/12132320/Donald-Trump-is-the-Mussolini-of-America-with-double-the-vulgarity.html

11 posted on 02/01/2016 3:01:48 AM PST by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution. Go Cruz.)
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To: elhombrelibre
Apparently, you're one of the few who can conclude Trump is really saying the opposite of his own words.

I am one of the few who can literally read Trump's next few sentences where he straight out says "for the most part people will be on private plans." So who are the people the "government" will pay for? The same people already targeted under medicaid, moron. In fact, in that same interview, he says it TWICE about how he plans to expand the market in each state for private plans.

You are a liar. Why do I call you that? Because THIS HAS BEEN DEBATED IN PROBABLY HUNDREDS OF THREADS AT THIS POINT, AND YET YOU WILL DENY TRUMP'S OWN WORDS.

12 posted on 02/01/2016 3:04:01 AM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

You’re wrong. You’re wrong headed. But you’re a perfect Trump man.


13 posted on 02/01/2016 3:10:23 AM PST by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution. Go Cruz.)
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To: elhombrelibre
Trump is investigating possible solutions tried with attempts that have been implemented to try to address what's a global health care crisis. He'll do that, and ascertain the positives and negatives of all of them in developing a plan.

It's called problem-solving. That's what Trump does best.

14 posted on 02/01/2016 3:10:23 AM PST by grania
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To: elhombrelibre

No, no, no. It’s Donald Trump, therefore it’s brilliant. GENIUS, even.

And everybody and everything else is a dummy loser. Or something.


16 posted on 02/01/2016 3:17:47 AM PST by Nickname
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
Trump has repeatedly said he supports single payer. He's in favor, essentially, of Obamacare, albeit run by a really, really smart guy like him. There are no shortages of films of him saying these things. He has repeatedly said this makes him different than the Republicans, and he says Socialized medicine works fine in Scotland. You have never proven that he actually meant to opposite of what he said. Now, you can blow a gasket. You can act like a baby and call me a liar, but it's still the truth. He's praised Putin too.

Is that out of context too?

17 posted on 02/01/2016 3:18:01 AM PST by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution. Go Cruz.)
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To: Nickname

I’ve noticed that. Everyone is stupid if they don’t agree with Trump. Trump is the Messiah. And everyone who quotes him showing him in his own words is dishonest.


18 posted on 02/01/2016 3:20:32 AM PST by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution. Go Cruz.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Scumbag?

My my, how the “Christian “ trump has rubbed off on his “Christian” cult followers.


20 posted on 02/01/2016 3:25:11 AM PST by one Lord one faith one baptism
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