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It's Time for Carson to Look in the Mirror
Conservative Review ^ | January 6, 2016 | Daniel Horowitz

Posted on 02/06/2016 1:13:18 PM PST by GodGunsGuts

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To: Hugin

Shows how little you know about what happened. Cruz did not apologize for forwarding the story the Carson campaign gave to CNN (and then tried to take back later), but rather Cruz apologized on behalf of his campaign for not being quicker about clarifying the CNN clarification that came later.


21 posted on 02/06/2016 1:38:34 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: Hugin

Who said Carson was quitting?

It’s ok, I know you won’t tell me. I keep asking and I get attacked. Every. Time.


22 posted on 02/06/2016 1:39:09 PM PST by DrewsMum (If they wanted a conservative, they'd vote for one.)
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To: napscoordinator

Oh, yeah. It should be a real Carson-Cruz donnybrook this evening... assuming someone wakes the good doctor from his mid-debate nap. Can’t wait to see his Florida-fresh clothes, though! Perfectly creased pants could earn him an endorsement from David Brooks.


23 posted on 02/06/2016 1:40:09 PM PST by irishjuggler
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To: napscoordinator

Cruz needs to double down on why forwarding the CNN story was the correct thing to do, and blame the Carson campaign for getting this story started in the first place.

The only thing Cruz apologized for on behalf of his campaign was not getting the secondary clarification story from CNN out to his field staff quicker.


24 posted on 02/06/2016 1:41:40 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: skeeter

Oh I thought it might be Carsons new narrative that Cruz should be ashamed because what he did was disrespectful to the Campaign worker who got killed in the car wreck.


25 posted on 02/06/2016 1:42:22 PM PST by DrewsMum (If they wanted a conservative, they'd vote for one.)
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To: GodGunsGuts
I was born and bred in Baltimore and grew up in the shadow of Dr. Carson's stupendous reputation as "America's Surgeon." I've never thought anything but admirable sentiments towards him, but his behavior this week reveals a man who is either running a scam or should be disqualified from running for office due to incompetency.

Which raises the question: How does this idiot talk about people he doesn't admire?

26 posted on 02/06/2016 1:42:59 PM PST by x
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To: skeeter

Aren’t all PACs shady by their very nature? I don’t know. But they aren’t controlled by the candidates are they?


27 posted on 02/06/2016 1:43:44 PM PST by DrewsMum (If they wanted a conservative, they'd vote for one.)
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To: longfellow
Too bad, I would have liked to have seen him as vp.

Why? Ben Carson politically is a fraud. His "manager" Armstrong Williams is in the tank for Louis Farrakhan and the despicable Black Lives Matter movement.

I'm not a Cruz fan by any stretch of the imagination (though I will vote for him if he's the nominee) but Cruz won Iowa fair and square.

28 posted on 02/06/2016 1:45:52 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Hugin; Jane Long
..... The Cruzers took the words flying to FL and opportunistically turned it into Carson is quitting so caucus w/ Cruz. Combined with their sleazy, dishonest flyers they show Cruz to be the a**hole people who know him well say he is. Cruz was one of my top choices before Trump, and I still wanted him to be AG or SCOTUS justice. But I like him less and less as this goes on......

Just a little aside----Ben Carson's wife was at an Iowa caucus when Cruz/s desperate trick to get votes was in play. She asked if she could speak on the subject....she told the caucus goers none of it was true....Carson was still running. Incidentally, Carson won that caucus.

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Greta V/S is not a Carson supporter.....but she went ballistic when she reported on the Cruz campaign/s intellectually facile response to his critics. ...claiming they used Carson/s own resignations words....when no such words exist.

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.....reports indicate that the schemers who did this were hired PRECISELY by Cruz b/c they did it before. That Cruz keeps them on his payroll, suggests the report is accurate.

Nice take. The evidence is all there for a criminal complaint. Cruz was caught w/ his pants down. Cruz had victory without triumph.

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Karl Rove, not a Trump fan by any means, explained how the Cruz cheating could have cost Donald the election.

The Cruz Campaign tweeted: Press says Carson is going to take a break...... so tell all the Carson people to campaign with Cruz.

But Rove explains that at 7:53 the Carson people send out a release saying, We/re here. We/re staying in the race. We/re going to New Hampshire and South Carolina.

And at 8:20 Cruz campaign chief Steve King tweets deceptively: It looks like Carson is getting out of the race...... knowing full well this was inaccurate.

Cruz characteristically lies.....said we sent it to our team, insinuating this had to do with sending it out to staff members.

W-r-o-n-g...says Rove. The Cruz team sent this to nearly 1,500 Cruz precinct captains.

Now why does that matter? The gap between Trump and Cruz is 6,239 votes. There are 1,500 precincts. Do the math. If that message cost Carson four votes per precinct to switch to Cruz, then Cruz beats Trump. If opportunistic Cruz hadn/t manipulated those four votes, he/d be the loser.

29 posted on 02/06/2016 1:46:38 PM PST by Liz (SAFE PLACE? A liberal's mind. Nothing's there. Nothing can penetrate it.)
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To: x

Well, he could always write an article about you.


30 posted on 02/06/2016 1:46:45 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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THE CRUZ IOWA MAILERS ARE MORE FRAUDULENT THAN EVERYONE THINKS / Ryan Lizza / The New Yorker

EXCERPT The Iowa secretary of state was mostly concerned that Cruz’s campaign mailers appeared partially disguised to look like an official communication from the state government.

After looking at several mailers posted online, I was more curious about how the Cruz campaign came up with its scores. On all the mailers I saw, every voter listed had only one of three possible scores: fifty-five per cent, sixty-five per cent, or seventy-five per cent, which translate to F, D, and C grades, respectively. Iowans take voting pretty seriously.

Why was it that nobody had a higher grade.

Although Iowa voter-registration information is free and available to the public, voter history is not. That information is maintained by the Iowa secretary of state, who licenses it to campaigns, super PACs, polling firms, and any other entity that might want it.

So was the Cruz campaign accurately portraying the voter histories of Iowans? Or did it simply make up the numbers?

It seems to have made them up. Dave Peterson, a political scientist at Iowa State University who is well-acquainted with the research on “social pressure” turnout techniques, received a mailer last week. The Cruz campaign pegged his voting percentage at fifty-five per cent, which seems to be the most common score that the campaign gives out.

(All of the neighbors listed on Peterson’s mailer also received a score of fifty-five per cent.) Peterson, who is actually a Hillary Clinton supporter, moved to Iowa in 2009. He told me that he has voted in three out of the last three general elections and in two out of the last three primaries.

“There are other people listed on my mailer who live in my neighborhood that are all different ages, but everyone on this sheet has the same score of fifty-five per cent,” he said. “Some are significantly younger and would have not been eligible to vote in these elections, and others are older and have voted consistently, going back years. There is no way to get to us all having the same score.” (Peterson also spoke with Mother Jones.)

If the Cruz campaign based its score on local elections, Peterson said, the number also wouldn’t make sense, based on his participation in those elections as well. A source with access to the Iowa voter file told me that he checked several other names on Cruz mailers and that the voting histories of those individuals did not match the scores that the Cruz campaign assigned them in the mailer. ---SNIP--

REST AT: http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/ted-cruzs-iowa-mailers-are-more-fraudulent-than-everyone-thinks

31 posted on 02/06/2016 1:47:23 PM PST by Liz (SAFE PLACE? A liberal's mind. Nothing's there. Nothing can penetrate it.)
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To: DrewsMum
They are supposed to be independent of the candidates they support, and are governed by a combination of state and federal laws. Thats all I really know.

But since Trump's campaign is "self funded" PACs are a distinction his fans think they can pounce on.

32 posted on 02/06/2016 1:47:56 PM PST by skeeter
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To: GodGunsGuts

And no one pays attention to the fact that the initial news release came as the caucuses were just starting. The correction didn’t come until after they were underway. I’m Guessing in the chaos of the caucuses, there is not much time to check twitter.


33 posted on 02/06/2016 1:48:41 PM PST by DrewsMum (If they wanted a conservative, they'd vote for one.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Another thing not mentioned is that the initial misleading report was also BROADCAST on TV. I don’t think the correction was. I could be wrong.


34 posted on 02/06/2016 1:50:19 PM PST by DrewsMum (If they wanted a conservative, they'd vote for one.)
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To: DrewsMum

It doesn’t matter to the Trumpbots. Remember, Trump could shoot someone in the street and they wouldn’t care. Trump was only half joking when he said that.


35 posted on 02/06/2016 1:50:27 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Why? Ben Carson politically is a fraud. His “manager” Armstrong Williams is in the tank for Louis Farrakhan and the despicable Black Lives Matter movement.——

EFF HIM.

Yes Cruz did win fair and square. I wanted CRUZ / WEST.


36 posted on 02/06/2016 1:50:36 PM PST by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: Liz

I wondered about that, never saw any with an A or B grade.

Sort of like curving the grades downwards.


37 posted on 02/06/2016 1:51:42 PM PST by nascarnation
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To: DrewsMum

Here’s a good minute by minute rundown of what happened:

http://constitution.com/ted-cruz-didnt-lie-entire-carsoncruz-fight-timeline/


38 posted on 02/06/2016 1:51:50 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: nascarnation

More to the point——Iowa does not grade voting.


39 posted on 02/06/2016 1:53:45 PM PST by Liz (SAFE PLACE? A liberal's mind. Nothing's there. Nothing can penetrate it.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

I dunno. I was thinking he maybe should redirect back to the issues, but it would be good to tell the truth straight to the people.


40 posted on 02/06/2016 2:00:27 PM PST by DrewsMum (If they wanted a conservative, they'd vote for one.)
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