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Notes on Cultural Collapse
Townhall.com ^ | February 9, 2016 | Bill Murchison

Posted on 02/09/2016 8:03:23 AM PST by Kaslin

That Donald Trump, in his quest to lead us back to national greatness, feels free to brag, distort, lampoon, defame and empty his personal trash on every political doorstep is one sign -- but hardly the only one -- of a few changes in America's moral makeup over the past half century.

There's also the current dust-up in Dallas, Texas, over the city's alleged inability to block a "sex expo" in the local convention center. The mayor wants to bar the door to "Exxxotica," as the convention calls itself. Various local groups second the motion. "Can't do it," wail officials of the convention center. "That would be to Restrict Free Speech in Defiance of Our Precious First Amendment! And get us sued in the process."

See what I mean? We're engaged, all around, in prying from our windpipes the dead hands of the Founding Fathers. Get those guys out of here! They're dead!

I expect Trump, from the rear of his medicine show wagon, would voice hearty approval of that viewpoint. These days we say what we want to -- never mind the forgotten obligations of citizenship, civility and morality.

The Dallas dust-up is evidence of what happens when civic ideals collapse. Anything goes, like a porn exhibition in a convention center.

The idea that society can't police itself -- can't enforce standards regarded as both right and useful -- is nonsensical, a cover for weakness, a balm for the economic itch. A Dallas city councilman, noting the city's efforts to keep the convention hall full, suggests, "If we're going to compete with Vegas, we have to be prepared to get a little Vegas on us." Wow! Wouldn't the author of The Federalist Papers like to hear that one? Very, very Trumpian.

Can't ban a porn expo from the convention center? What's the meaning of that logical and moral absurdity? Not long ago, no such expo would have come a-knocking at the convention center door. The First Amendment to the Constitution and its guarantee of free speech acknowledged limits to the right to degrade.

In Roth vs. United States, handed down in 1957, in the mistily remembered days of Ike Eisenhower and Betty Furness, the U.S. Supreme Court declared that "implicit in the history of the First Amendment is the rejection of obscenity as utterly without redeeming social importance." "We hold," said the justices, "that obscenity is not within the area of constitutionally protected speech or press."

After 15 years or so, the cultural upheavals of the 1960s changed the Court's mind -- and the minds of many ordinary Americans who welcomed official permission to burn U.S. flags, divest clothing in public and do other things formerly forbidden in Uptight America, all in the name of free speech.

The meaning of civilized discourse, as contemplated by the Founding Fathers, disappeared from view. Public argumentation wasn't about persuasion, for heaven's sake. It was about the making of personal statements in any manner one might contrive. What that came down to, of course, was the idea (if you could call it an idea and not an unseemly itch) of coercing agreement through intimidation and embarrassment.

Persuasion, you see, took so long! Minds needed changing, in the interest of Progress. Don't spend valuable time on minds. Spend it on others' fears and emotions. Raise hell! Scare, shock, scandalize, outrage!

So what if the founders hadn't contemplated intimidation as an instrument for the cultivation of virtue? Bunch of guys in powdered wigs -- what did they know? As for you, sublimely alive, sublimely right as to instincts and purposes, why shouldn't the courts let you show those old fuddies what was what? Those sorts of fuddies fail to see civic purpose in a porno show, and they fear lawsuits and court costs and embarrassment -- precisely as contemplated by the engineers of the cultural revolution intended from the start to get moralists out of the way.

Enter Donald John Trump, metaphorical middle finger extended.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 1stcanadiansenator; election2016; pearlclutching; propagandadujour; tds; tedspacificpartners
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1 posted on 02/09/2016 8:03:23 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Trump is only playing by the Saul Alinsky rules that the Democrats instituted four decades ago.

And frankly it’s about time somebody did.


2 posted on 02/09/2016 8:08:25 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Kaslin
I support Trump, and I will vote for him ... because I think he CAN turn America around more to our conservative liking

But I DO wish he'd back off on the language a bit

3 posted on 02/09/2016 8:08:48 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: knarf
But I DO wish he'd back off on the language a bit

From my reading this morning, that puts you in a minority among Trump supporters. I am hearing mostly, "You Go Donald!"

4 posted on 02/09/2016 8:11:14 AM PST by don-o (He will not share His glory. And He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: Kaslin

Trump is waging a war on political correctness and good for him. Church ladies put your hands over your ears til after the election. :-)


5 posted on 02/09/2016 8:13:28 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: don-o

Haven’t you heard the latest? Swearing makes you Patton.


6 posted on 02/09/2016 8:14:18 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: Kaslin
The idea that society can't police itself -- can't enforce standards regarded as both right and useful -- is nonsensical, a cover for weakness, a balm for the economic itch. A Dallas city councilman, noting the city's efforts to keep the convention hall full, suggests, "If we're going to compete with Vegas, we have to be prepared to get a little Vegas on us." Wow! Wouldn't the author of The Federalist Papers like to hear that one?
You often see that spirit here.
7 posted on 02/09/2016 8:14:43 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
Church ladies put your hands over your ears til after the election.

And then maybe 4 years more after the election, with an option for 4 after that.

8 posted on 02/09/2016 8:15:40 AM PST by C210N (Supporting the Constitutional Conservative in the race. Constitutional Conservative Cruz.)
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To: knarf

Must be going for the youth vote. I find it very unprofessional.


9 posted on 02/09/2016 8:15:54 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Because Patton.

Like I said earlier, I think the pussy lady was a bit of a see you next Tuesday, but it’s all good.


10 posted on 02/09/2016 8:16:07 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
we have to be prepared to get a little Vegas on us

Perhaps he'd like to have legions of Sleazy Petes standing on street corners handing out pornographic business cards ...

11 posted on 02/09/2016 8:18:51 AM PST by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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To: knarf
But I DO wish he'd back off on the language a bit

For Trump, as for many who use bad language, it is a substitute for thought and knowledge. He is vulgar, o indulges in personal insults, when he has nothing useful to say, which is often.

12 posted on 02/09/2016 8:22:12 AM PST by sphinx
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

You can see it already in this thread’s comments.


13 posted on 02/09/2016 8:23:31 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: Kaslin

‘”In his quest to bring us back to National greatness ...”

Stopped reading right there and laughed.


14 posted on 02/09/2016 8:23:37 AM PST by RIghtwardHo
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Gonna be hard for them to pull a voting lever with both hands over their ears.


15 posted on 02/09/2016 8:24:16 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: Georgia Girl 2

“Church ladies put your hands over your ears til after the election. :-)”

My minister’s wife is GO Trump times 4 : )


16 posted on 02/09/2016 8:25:40 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) since Nov 2014 (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Good for her. And hopefully more like her.

The church ladies I’m referring to are mostly the nancy boys on this site. :-)


17 posted on 02/09/2016 8:27:44 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

I figured as much. And lest we forget, evangelicals got suckered into voting for Jimmah Carter, who is still running around the world hugging communist dictators.


18 posted on 02/09/2016 8:29:54 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) since Nov 2014 (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: Kaslin

Sorry that you don’t seem to get it. We’re tired of the pussy-footing around. This country needs an enema.


19 posted on 02/09/2016 8:30:16 AM PST by freedomjusticeruleoflaw (Western Civilization- whisper the words, and it will disappear. So let us talk now about rebirth.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

So crude insults should now be a part of our culture? Ghetto culture should be celebrated? The length Trump fanboys go to excuse his behavior.


20 posted on 02/09/2016 8:31:13 AM PST by Blackirish
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