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Given how quickly Rubio, Jeb, and Christie jumped on the women in combat bandwagon, I thought it worthwhile pointing out that the one woman in the race, at least, would not have overruled the Marine Corps request to continue the exclusion.
1 posted on 02/09/2016 8:58:49 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin
When she's right, she's right.

Its a shame we've come to the point where this is even considered a legitimate question.

2 posted on 02/09/2016 9:00:19 AM PST by skeeter
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin; All
"Fiorina:
Marine Corp leaders should decide
on jobs open to women...."


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15 posted on 02/09/2016 9:25:16 AM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

NOT ON YOUR LIFE, Fiorina!


17 posted on 02/09/2016 9:28:15 AM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

Too late, obama and mabus set the precedent. If women like gloria steinem and feminists want equal rights, well guess what: you got em!

Now I want all able bodied women between the ages of 18-35 to register for selective service. If they fail to register, then they are subject to the same punishment as men. This is what the equal rights crowd wanted, this is what they get.

No special protections for women in the military, no maternity leave, no special accomodations, no special treatment whatsoever. And especially NO being excused from having to serve in combat.

Women wanted equal rights, sided with the radical feminists, now they have own up to it. Now women will get to serve in combat, and get to eat a bullet just like the men that they serve along side with.


19 posted on 02/09/2016 9:31:02 AM PST by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin; skeeter; Mechanicos; PIF; D Rider; PJBankard
I think it is basically over when it comes to deploying truly effective fighting units. When Richard Winters chose men to attack the the German artillery on D-Day he looked for those he believed were killers. The need for equitable employment policies precludes such an outcome for the future. Below is the letter I wrote to Congress to mark the demise of our military.

LETTER SENT TO MY COGRESSMAN AND ALL SENATORS (December 2015)
The Tragedy of Women in Combat

Ash Carter’s announcement demonstrates this Administration’s attachment to a political ideology fueled by arrogance and premeditated ignorance. Any long period of study and vigorous debate has been among those mutually supportive creatures that have metastasized throughout the military to serve a social agenda bringing future needless devastation. Most of the points I highlight about women in combat arose first when the decision was made to do away with DADT. A lot of good men are going to have to die in years to come to cover up this disaster.

This tragedy of women in combat provides another reason I now always council men to never enter the armed forces. Social engineering that amalgamates feminist ideals everywhere has now become the over arching imperative to which all operational capabilities must submit.

However, combat operations too often demand unpredictably and unimaginably exhausting brutality to achieve victory. Therefore, only the highest physical abilities and most severe restrictions on human emotions and behaviors can foster the required high morale, good order and discipline, and unit cohesion required.

Human sexuality simply cannot intrude into this sub-culture where only those displaying the greatest savagery and endurance can hope to win. Resorting to war for national defense entails the ultimate Olympics of conflict occurring at the bleeding edge of existence where the unbelievable becomes the possible. Here there is much less excuse for merging men and women into these struggles than exists for the athletic competitions held every four years.

Combat forms personnel into small, rigid, task oriented units. These people continuously face extraordinary stress punctuated by killing other humans. At the point of collision, they undertake actions requiring sacrificial, primitive and intimate actions. Such environments are inherently chaotic, barbaric, and brittle. They can be overcome only by a totalitarian leadership and narrow focus unimaginable for those who see any opportunity for the social alchemy popular in civilian life.

The regimental combat teams for infantry, mechanized and armored units are now the playthings of bureaucrats committed to equal opportunity and affirmative action. They are dismissive of warriors enduring the brutal carnage imperative for victory. Institutional memories no longer exist for fighting ferocious, shrewd enemies such as the Germans, Japanese, Chinese, and North Vietnamese, who utilized a full array of modern weapons. If one notes the ribbons on any senior officer’s uniform, they show they fought only Arabs the Israelis beat three times at 20 to 1 odds. Such people now question the necessity for high standards which do not obfuscate or allow inferior female performance.

Women not only do not belong at the pointy end of the spear, but should not be holding it to the extent the combat arms must depend on their savagery. As this tragedy unfolds I will remember the quote that, “Men sleep peacefully in their beds at night because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf”.

All Combat Roles Now Open to Women, Pentagon Says
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/pentagon-nbc-news-all-combat-roles-now-openomen-n473581?cid=eml_nbn_20151203

The Greatest Lie Ever Told - Female Rangers
http://usdefensewatch.com/2015/12/the-greatest-lie-ever-told-female-rangers/
Why Marines, unlike Army and Navy, are so against women in combat
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Military/2015/0911/Why-Marines-unlike-Army-and-Navy-are-so-against-women-in-combat?cmpid=editorpicks&google_editors_picks=true
General Martin E. Dempsey
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Dempsey
Gen. Dempsey: If Women Can’t Meet Military Standard, Pentagon Will Ask ‘Does It Really Have to Be That High?’
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/gen-dempsey-if-women-can-t-meet-military-standard-pentagon-will-ask-does-it-really-have
Coed Combat Units - A bad idea on all counts
http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/coed-combat-units_697822.html
You’re In the New Army Now
http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/2013/01/youre-in-new-army-now.html
Marine Corps boot camp, job titles to be gender neutral by April
http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/story/military/2016/01/06/marine-corps-boot-camp-job-titles-gender-neutral-april/78351756/
Be sure to check out the photo of Secretary of the Navy Ray Mabus. He looks to me like someone who should be holding personnel seminars at Health and Human Services. I would not want to have anything to do with the gooey product resulting from the fulfillment of his vision. I think it is time to retire the service dress blues for a mauve uniform with a pink stripe and fashionable French berets. Considering the defense secretary claimed a long period of study and vigorous debate, I maintain discussion was among those mutually supportive creatures that have metastasized throughout the military to serve the LGBT and feminist social agendas. Most of the points I highlight below about women in combat first arose when the decision was imposed to do away with DADT. A lot of good men are going to have to die in years to come to cover up this needless disaster.

25 posted on 02/09/2016 10:18:00 AM PST by Retain Mike
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin
This is a man's world, this is a man's world
But it wouldn't be nothing, nothing without a woman or a girl
You see, man made the cars to take us over the road
Man made the trains to carry heavy loads
Man made electric light to take us out of the dark
Man made the boat for the water, like Noah made the ark
This is a man's, a man's, a man's world
But it wouldn't be nothing, nothing without a woman or a girl
Man thinks about a little baby girls and a baby boys
Man makes then happy 'cause man makes them toys
And after man has made everything, everything he can
You know that man makes money to buy from other man
This is a man's world
But it wouldn't be nothing, nothing without a woman or a girl
He's lost in the wilderness
He's lost in bitterness


This is a Man's World, by James Brown,
but sung most memorably by Ron "Pigpen" McKernan

29 posted on 02/09/2016 10:30:41 AM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

i think they should have separate outfits or companies or whatever they are called. Men and women are not equal - i.e.: women tend to have less upper body strength which can make big differences in how men and women might choose to perform different tasks not to mention differences in feelings/emotion and such.

I’m glad pro sports are not mixed gender teams, I don’t think our military which is life or death not a game, should be mixed gender either.


35 posted on 02/09/2016 1:09:06 PM PST by b4me
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