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Obama to release $4 trillion-plus budget for 2017
Associated Press ^ | Feb. 9, 2016 4:16 AM EST | Andrew Taylor and Martin Crutsinger

Posted on 02/09/2016 12:22:32 PM PST by Olog-hai

President Barack Obama is releasing his eighth and final budget, a $4 trillion-plus document that's freighted with liberal policy initiatives and both new and familiar tax hikes -- all sent to a dismissive Republican-controlled Congress that simply wants to move on from his presidency. [...]

It comes as the deficit, which had been falling over the duration of Obama's presidency, has begun to creep up. ...

(Excerpt) Read more at bigstory.ap.org ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: fourtrillion; gopestablishment; liberalagenda; obama

1 posted on 02/09/2016 12:22:32 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Not to be out done, Bernie Sanders will release his modest $37 trillion dollar budget in the coming days.


2 posted on 02/09/2016 12:26:45 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Olog-hai
It comes as the deficit, which had been falling over the duration of Obama's presidency, has begun to creep up.

I just pooped my pants.

3 posted on 02/09/2016 12:27:04 PM PST by Tenacious 1 (You couldn't pay me enough to be famous for being stupid!)
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To: Olog-hai

Is it really DOA?

I wouldn’t hold my breath since the GOP establishment fears that dreaded word: S-H-U-T-D-O-W-N.

Obama is going to get his way at the end of the year - again.

That’s regardless of who wins the White House in November.


4 posted on 02/09/2016 12:28:12 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Olog-hai

Ryan and McConnell will meet with Obama and see if he would like $5 Trillion-plus.


5 posted on 02/09/2016 12:29:39 PM PST by txrefugee
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To: PIF
Not to be out done, Bernie Sanders will release his modest $37 trillion dollar budget in the coming days.

And that's the austerity plan.

6 posted on 02/09/2016 12:32:31 PM PST by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: Olog-hai

Too bad there’s not a pubbie politician currently in off ice to tell him to shove his budget where the sun doesn’t shine.


7 posted on 02/09/2016 12:34:22 PM PST by kenmcg
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To: Olog-hai

Do you suppose Obola would be doing better things for America if he were actually a Natural Born Citizen ?!


8 posted on 02/09/2016 12:38:26 PM PST by PraiseTheLord (have you seen the fema camps, shackle box cars, thousands of guillotines, stacks of coffins ~)
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To: Olog-hai; All
Thank you for referencing that article Olog-hai. As usual, please bear in mind that the following critique is directed at the article and not at you.

Patriots, please bear in mind that lawless Obama is actually not the main problem with unconstitutional federal budget imo. This is because the Founding States had uniquely given the House the ”power of the purse” as evidenced by Clause 1 of Section 7 of Article I.

And the corrupt, RINO-controlled House has been blatantly ignoring the clarification of a previous generation of state sovereignty-respecting justices that Congress is prohibited from appropriating taxes in the name of state power issues, essentially any issue that Congress cannot justify under its constitutional Article I, Section 8-limited powers.

”Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States.” - Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.

Based on the Courts statement above, here is a rough approximation of how much taxpayers should be paying Congress annually to perform its Section 8-limited power duties.

Given that the plurality of clauses in Section 8 deal with defense, and given that the Department of Defense budget for 2015 was $500+ billion, I will generously round up the $500+ billion figure to $1 trillion (but probably much less) as the annual price tag of the federal government to the taxpayers.

In other words, the corrupt media, including Obama guard dog Fx Noise, should not be reporting multi-trillion dollar annual federal budgets without mentioning the Supreme Courts clarification of Congresss limited power to appropriate taxes in budget discussions.

Remember in November !

When patriots elect Trump, Cruz, or whatever conservative they elect, they need to also elect a new, state sovereignty-respecting Congress that will not only work within its Section 8-limited powers to support the new president, but also protect the states from unconstitutional federal government overreach.

Also, consider that such a Congress would probably be willing to fire state sovereignty-ignoring activist justices.

9 posted on 02/09/2016 12:40:01 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: Olog-hai

A budget put fort that is roughly 1/4 of the GDP.... Insane.


10 posted on 02/09/2016 12:41:41 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: Amendment10

Patriots, please bear in mind that lawless Obama is actually not the main problem with unconstitutional federal budget imo. This is because the Founding States had uniquely given the House the ”power of the purse” as evidenced by Clause 1 of Section 7 of Article I. ...
That may not have been too big of a problem if the Sixteenth Amendment had never come to be. Not to mention, it is unconstitutional to delegate collecting such taxation to the executive branch, via the Department of the Treasury and its IRS division (one of the first instances of Congress destroying separation of powers was the creation of the Treasury Department in 1789, FWICS).
11 posted on 02/09/2016 12:48:26 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai
It comes as the deficit, which had been falling over the duration of Obama's presidency, has begun to creep up.

You have to admire the destruction of language on display here. The reality is the deficit has fallen somewhat from the trillion-dollar whoppers of his first term, but is still at least $400 billion annually. Obama's accomplishment in adding $9 trillion to the national debt doesn't seem to merit a mention from the media. The sentence as written gives the impression that debt has been falling steadily during his two terms. What a lie!
12 posted on 02/09/2016 12:50:07 PM PST by Deo volente (God willing, America shall survive this Obamanation.)
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To: goldstategop
>>Obama is going to get his way at the end of the year - again<<

Remember, this is an election year for congressional seats as well. The acting has begun.

Your republican incumbents will behave themselves this year. It's a grand ol time to declare how “conservative” they are.

It's only after the election they will go back to being who they really are.

13 posted on 02/09/2016 12:50:19 PM PST by servantboy777
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To: Olog-hai

Ever what happened to the one time stimulus money. Once it went into the budget it never came out. The whole federal budget trick, any increase in the budget becomes permanent.

Only they don’t fund any of those crazy stimulus (America Recovery Act) programs.


14 posted on 02/09/2016 12:53:13 PM PST by shotgun
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To: Olog-hai; All

Good points !


15 posted on 02/09/2016 12:53:17 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: goldstategop

Here’s roughly how I envision the negotiations will go:

Obama: $4.1 trillion

Ryan/McConnell: $3.1 trillion

Obama: $4.05 trillion

Ryan/McConnell: $3.4 trillion

Obama: $4 trillion

Ryan/McConnell: $3.6 trillion

Obama: $4 trillion

Ryan/McConnell: $3.7 trillion

Obama: $4 trillion

Ryan/McConnell: $3.75 trillion

Obama: $3.99 trillion

Ryan/McConnell: We’re not going any higher.

Obama: Then enjoy the government shutdown.

Ryan/McConnell: Wait!! Oh no!! God, no!! OK, OK, $3.99 trillion it is then.

Obama: You got yourselves a deal. Thank you for making government work.


16 posted on 02/09/2016 1:05:32 PM PST by DestroyLiberalism
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To: The_Victor

Be careful of using the word ‘austerity’ around Bernie ...


17 posted on 02/09/2016 1:09:36 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: DestroyLiberalism

What negotiations? The Uniparty gets what the Uniparty wants. If McConnell and Ryno were to be candid and honest, they would repeat the words of 1984’s O’Brien: “They ‘got me’ a long time ago.”


18 posted on 02/09/2016 1:27:41 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: txrefugee

Yes, but first they will tell how much they oppose it. Then, they will rush out to meet with Odumbo and fund it through a CR.


19 posted on 02/09/2016 1:58:57 PM PST by Goreknowshowtocheat
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