To: Olog-hai
Lies against the Founding Fathers and lies against ReaganYou know, we may have hit upon the typical Cruz fan, one who is completely ignorant of colonial history and equally ignorant about Reagan.
Let's start with Reagan. So, you say I am lying that Reagan put a 100% tariff on Japanese electronics in March of 1987 (as would trump but not Cruz)? Really? It's a fact, and I'm no liberal but you are ignorant of the facts. And, you say I am lying that Reagan in 1983 didn't solidify Social Security - part of which was a deal to raise the payroll tax? Really? It's a fact, and I'm not liberal but you are ignorant of the facts. I Strongly suggest you read up on Reagan instead of just listening to the constant name dropping from people like Cruz.
So, let's look at colonial America: political hacks who rewarded donors and lived off of the tax payer where non-existent. Read the autobiographies of Jefferson and his letters. They were pragmatic people beyond the singular attribute of piety. Trump would be at home in that environment whereas Cruz would be held in suspicion. I am not a liberal but you are ignorant of the facts.
114 posted on
02/10/2016 2:45:35 PM PST by
Lagmeister
( false prophets shall rise, and shall show signs and wonders Mark 13:22)
To: Lagmeister
You seem to have a fondness for labeling. Not consistent with US conservatism, with all due respect.
Not even the
NY Slimes agrees when it comes to the tariff, which they say was on some products, and in retaliation for Japans refusal to comply with a semiconductor agreement signed with the USA in September of 1986, whereupon they engaged in what was called chip dumping.
The only source I can find for Reagan instituting a payroll tax increase is Paul Krugman. And he only indicates payroll tax as a
percentage of
government revenue.
Since pragmatism equals liberalism (the end justifies the means), and the very notion of pragmatism originated around the middle of the 19
th Century, Jefferson was no pragmatist. If he were a pragmatist (or a proto-pragmatist), he would never have opposed the inordinate power given to the
Supreme Court, which he rightly pointed out was continually driving us into consolidation, further criticizing the fact that its members were appointed and saying that (i)t should be remembered as an axiom of eternal truth in politics that
whatever power in government is independent is absolute also.
To: Lagmeister
They were pragmatic people beyond the singular attribute of piety.
Give me Liberty or Give me death isn't exactly pragmatic, neither is risking fortune, family and life in exchange for freedom. Pragmatist tend to say that a few extra pennies for tea isn't worth dieing over.
119 posted on
02/10/2016 4:57:09 PM PST by
Idaho_Cowboy
(Ride for the Brand. Joshua 24:15)
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