Posted on 02/11/2016 7:35:47 AM PST by newgeezer
On the surface, there's not much in common between New Hampshire GOP primary winner Donald Trump and Democratic primary winner Bernie Sanders. Trump is a billionaire businessman; Sanders is a career politician. Trump's personal favorability is the lowest of all candidates on either side; Sanders' is the highest. But the impulse that drove New Hampshire voters to the polls for Sanders is the same as the impulse that drove them to the polls for Trump: the desire for a powerful authority figure to fix everything using the power of government. In fact, before the New Hampshire primary, CNN reported, "Because independents can register as âundeclared' in New Hampshire and then vote in either party's primary, the Vermont senator's campaign has noted some of these voters are wavering between Sanders and Trump."
There's a reason for the confusion: Trump and Sanders aren't that different on policy. Really.
They're both anti-establishment candidates who bash Wall Street. Here's Trump from his victory speech last night:
Both Trump and Sanders want to do away with Obamacare in favor of a more universal system. Trump has been extraordinarily unclear on what he wants to replace Obamacare, but he vows that he'll stop the "insurance companiesâ¦getting rich on Obamacare" and ensure "we're going to take care of the people on the street dying."
Here's Sanders last night:
On foreign policy, too, Trump and Sanders sound alike. Here's Trump on the Iraq war from the last debate:
That's what many of their supporters want. Many Trump supporters frequently comment that he "wins," that he will "win" for America, that he's capable of "making deals," that he's not beholden to anyone or anything. Sanders supporters say the same thing.
Many Trump supporters - the ones who believe he is a transformational figure - ignore the fact that Trump won't change the nature of government in any real way. They're looking for a singular authoritarian solution to the problems of their lives. They believe it takes a power broker to stop the power brokers. Hand Trump the ring of government power, and watch what he can do! He may not cast it into the fiery chasm from whence it came, but he'll use it to fight Mordor sometimes.
Sanders' supporters also object to a corrupt government - but they think that more government is the solution. They think the government is bought and paid for by outside parties, and they want an honest socialist dictator in charge to clean house. They want a Hugo Chavez to ride in on the wind and use the power of government to punish their enemies. Sanders may proclaim that his motivating feeling is hope, but the real motivation behind his campaign is bitter jealousy and petty vengefulness.
These are the wages of big government and an unendingly powerful executive branch. Too many people gain too much by its existence to do away with it; too many people want to control the guns and the money to back a true reformer. Every four years we now pick our dictator. It's just a question of whether that dictator does the stuff you want, or whether you're his target.
They could not be farther apart. One is a communist and one is a capitalist. Best election evah.
Pray America wakes.
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Crony capitalism is a leftist practice not far removed from socialism, go read the road to serfdom.
I admit I’m not going to vote for Trump in the primary. My question is whether I can stomach voting for him in the general election, and dismissing concerns as “talking points” isn’t likely to convince any of us that are on the fence.
You should be able to pull the lever for Trump in the general if you can stomach Cruz after he campaigned for Barack Obama in the U. S. Senate and accepted millions in money laundered donations.
Trump wants to cut military spending? After maintaining since his announced candidacy that he was going to build it up? And when he talks about cutting government, he always exempts the military?
Anyone who can not see the difference between Trump and Sanders, or claims to not be able to see any difference, is being deceptive and devious.
Written by a typical Cruz-bot.
The article is correct. Unfortunately many people will figure this out too late.
Maybe if you posted some rational thought commentary, people might take your comment seriously.
After months of reading your daily barrage of snarky posts, people realize your comment is pure projection of your own infantile behavior onto anyone who does not worship your candidate.
Again the words of the late Libertarian Michigan ( and DC ) talk show host Mark Scott haunt me, we will have the choice this November of "The evil of 2 lessers"
My conscious is at stake, how do I pull the lever for a merde sandwich again, I can't not again, McCain and Romney were bad enough, but again?
Pray for Cruise to rise up and win against all this madness....
We know Sanders is an old communist. He even sounds like Lenin (Savage show played recordings of Lenin speeches last night, with translation) = Bernie even uses the same phrases. Sanders has been steeping in Marxist-Leninist mindspeak since 1963!
But define Trump’s totalitarianism for us, please? Building a yuge real estate empire and being an unrepentant capitalist is totalitarian how? Donating to politicians of all parties (which has earned Trump the wrath of conservatives) is totalitarian how? Deferring to the states on marriage and abortion is totalitarian how?Supporting the 2d amendment is totalitarian how? Curious about what “totalitarian” compartment you place Trump?
You mean crony capitalism like Goldman Sachs who wrote the TARP laws keeping themselves from bankruptcy? They are the most leftist financier on the planet and connected directly to Cruz.
“They want a Hugo Chavez to ride in on the wind and use the power of government to punish their enemies.” They want a Che Guevara to do the punishments the right way ...
Hardly....Trump loves America, and wants to make her safe, and productve again
Sanders wants our hard earned money, he wants to prosecute our police officers
and oh yes
Sanders is a Communist
If this mean Pres. Trump will go “Pinoche” on the illegals, liberals, PC, and government departments, I’m all in!!
I was simply going to not vote for anyone if trump did not get the nomination, because I am an idiot and want to be vindictive to everyone that does not believe in Jesus and want to be damned to hell,...
But...
Now I have been righted and experienced my epiphany.
I shall simply cut to the chase and vote for Bernie Sanders, because he is, well, he is so superior to Trump, to Cruz, and yes, even the rest of the herd.
Clinton showed some promise, but I could not vote for her openly, so I just told everyone here that it was Cruz or the highway, knowing this would surely get her out to the front, and get back at those heathens who don't believe, but hey, I see now a better pathway,
Simply vote for the bern, and be done with it.
Now I need to go eat some more smart pills.
You mean crony capitalism like Goldman Sachs who wrote the TARP laws keeping themselves from bankruptcy? They are the most leftist financier on the planet and connected directly to Cruz.
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Trump supported TARP and supported the Stimulus bill and the auto bailouts.
Cruz opposed all of the above. Actions speak louder than unsubstantiated innuendo.
Here ya go
I thought the writer was very insightful . He layout comparisons side by side that are very credible and impossible to dismiss (here I will leave our my snarky comment about those who truly believe) This article means something t me in that I cannot find a core belief in Donald Trump that is in any way close to what I have come to know as conservatism
I was first taught by my father who believed in the stock market,free enterprise and limited government. Every week he watched Wall street week with Louis Rukyser. He read numerous books on politics and went to school when they taught Latin and the Classics. I was born in 1950 so in the 60s I was a hippie and laughed at all I had been taught.
I came back around once Reagan was president (I voted for his second term and have voted Republican ever since). Why? because among other things the president of the US was a teacher who explained to us why conservatism made sense. It corresponded to what I was finding in the real world.
Our nation is hemmed in at every level by bureaucracy, which I as a citizen must continuously confront ....and its getting worse.
Trump is using Platitudes and cheap tinkingt to sway people.
He is not that smart.(not nearly as smart as he thinks he is.
He got money at birth and has used it to navigate around bureaucracy and anything else that was put in his way.
Thats fine if you can do it but it does not address the problems in our society
The biggest problem i have with Trump is that absolutely no one knows what he will do with the power of government.
He gets around that by reassuring his adoring crowds that he is smart ,capable,and knows how to run things...
All he is done his whole life is buy off problems that got in his way and put his name in lights .
He is a brand like Coca Cola and I don’t think he will taste good after 3 months in office.
in short I agree with this article
Do you?
If Trump goes "Pinoche" on those people, I'm all in, too.
Problem is that living in New Jersey, I've been watching him since the '80s and judging from past experience, I'm more concerned Trump will go "Pinocchio" on his campaign promises.
see my post above and forgive my misspellings. I am a lousy typist
No, not really. Trump wants to slash taxes to lower rates than Reagan while Bernie wants to raise the top rate to 90% and raise taxes on everyone. That is like the difference between night and day.
Trump Derangement Syndrome takes ordinarily intelligent people and reduces them to babbling idiots.
Shark, meet jumping platform.
You mean like he supported TTP? Seems like your critique is very selective.
Trump is far more conservative then you give him credit. You have no problem with Goldman Sachs unless you can attack Trump with it. Mrs Cruz making $750K per year is no problem right?
Nobody is making Trump a saint like you Cruz supporters pretend your guy is. They are both flawed.
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