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Yellen on negative rates: 'We wouldn't take those off the table' (Recession & pay fee to save money)
CNBC ^ | 11 Feb 16 | Jeff Cox

Posted on 02/11/2016 9:40:48 AM PST by xzins

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To: xzins

Negative interest rates will cause a mass withdrawal of any monies left in the bank.


61 posted on 02/11/2016 10:47:35 AM PST by TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed (Yahuah Yahusha)
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To: tumblindice

The current Supreme Court said the power to “tax” includes the PPACA.

Even if guns go up in value, don’t expect to see any increase “after tax” after about 2017 (or 2021).

The background check system makes for good tax collection.


62 posted on 02/11/2016 10:49:55 AM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: xzins

Yo’re prolly right. If they are ignoring the Constitution and their own law—today it’s “Interference with federal agents”—they won’t respect the sacred right of private property.


63 posted on 02/11/2016 10:53:18 AM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: driftdiver

They must do this first to make negative rates do what they think they will do. If they go negative without banning cash people will just pull everything out of the banks, bank runs and widespread panic. Banning cash prevents this from happening and allows the government total control and knowledge of every penny you make or spend and a paper trail you must account for, pretty damned Orwellian...


64 posted on 02/11/2016 11:07:55 AM PST by sarge83
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To: xzins
RE:”Toomey also questioned whether a negative IOER rate would end up seeing savers pay a fee to keep money at banks. Yellen said she does not believe that is the case of the European countries where it has been tried.”

safe deposit boxes?

65 posted on 02/11/2016 11:10:13 AM PST by sickoflibs (Trumpster : 'I don't care what he says, or what he said before. He is the only one I trust"')
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To: xzins

Then silver, gold, guns, booze, and services will be used as barter. I will repair your transmission and you come repair my leaking bathroom tub and put in a new water heater. People will find a way around the beast.


66 posted on 02/11/2016 11:11:47 AM PST by sarge83
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To: catnipman; Extremely Extreme Extremist
"Then the mark on the forehead..."

chip

cell phone

67 posted on 02/11/2016 11:12:04 AM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Look at the Fed’s balance sheet. They bought Government debt (from primary dealers, who financed with near zero fed funds giving them a guaranteed profit), Agency Debt, Mortage Backed Securities, and lending to financial institutions.


68 posted on 02/11/2016 11:12:10 AM PST by PGR88
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To: PGR88
Look at the Fed's balance sheet. They bought Government debt

Yup. That's some high grade stuff.

who financed with near zero fed funds giving them a guaranteed profit),

If the Dealers sold, what are they financing?

Agency Debt, Mortage Backed Securities,

That's guaranteed debt. Trading above par. High quality stuff.

http://www.federalreserve.gov/releases/h41/current/

If you see any bad assets there, please point them out.

69 posted on 02/11/2016 11:18:38 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot ("Telling the government to lower trade barriers to zero...is government interference" central_va)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

yes, Fannie / Freddie debt. High quality. Made both agencies nearly bankrupt if not for the US taxpayer and borrowing power of Fed.gov

US Government guarantees agency debt. US Gov’t bails out Fannie/Freddie. Fed buys US Gov’t debt from primary dealers for its balance sheet to drive down interest rates.

that’s the definition of a ponzi scheme.


70 posted on 02/11/2016 11:29:11 AM PST by PGR88
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To: PGR88
yes, Fannie / Freddie debt. High quality. Made both agencies nearly bankrupt if not for the US taxpayer and borrowing power of Fed.gov

You bet.

US Government guarantees agency debt.

Yes, when the Treasury put them in receivership, it guaranteed their debt. So it's not junk.

Later, when the Fed bought securities, they could have bought junk, but they left the junk on the bank balance sheets. They only bought guaranteed debt.

So you were wrong about the Fed taking bad assets from banks.

71 posted on 02/11/2016 11:34:38 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot ("Telling the government to lower trade barriers to zero...is government interference" central_va)
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To: dp0622

But, but, the Fed. Reserve is just GRAND. Dandy, even. Oh, Constitutional and wholly legal.

Just think what might have happened if we had a gold-backed currency again! How UNSTABLE it USED to be. /s


72 posted on 02/11/2016 11:48:45 AM PST by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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To: Signalman

The only thing it WILL do is kill more wealth. I, for one, will pull $$ out as soon as it hits, retaining only that which is needed for bills/etc.; keeping it in my mattress will keep it in-hand, give liquidity and cheaper.

Get about as much intention as govt ‘intending’ to get more $$$ by taxing the piss out of the ‘rich’.


73 posted on 02/11/2016 11:57:42 AM PST by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Its a nice trick you play there.

US banks issue subprime mortgages to level of 25% in 2006, 90% being ARM. Wall Street sells loans to US Agencies,

Market turns, Fed buys troubled assets of JP Morgan, Bear Sterns, AIG under Maiden Lane program

US Gov’t buys bad debt, suddenly making it “not junk.”

US Gov’t runs deficit of $1.3 Trillion in FY2010.

Federal Reserve prints money to buy US Gov’t debt to lower debt financing costs.


74 posted on 02/11/2016 12:04:58 PM PST by PGR88
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To: xzins

The only thing these fleecers want is to have everyone buying the Wall St stuff they are selling.


75 posted on 02/11/2016 12:17:06 PM PST by apoliticalone (Political correctness should be defined as news media that exposes political corruption)
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To: MortMan

“Bond yields are tied to the interest rate. Japan just recently canceled a bond auction for lack of buyers due to negative interest rates.”

Americans would be wise to spend more time reading about what goes on abroad than paying attention to the lying manipulative USA MSM headlines.


76 posted on 02/11/2016 12:19:15 PM PST by apoliticalone (Political correctness should be defined as news media that exposes political corruption)
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To: PGR88

“She should be hanging from rope for crimes against humanity.

She and the Fed are engineering a massive strip-mining of wealth and wages from ordinary citizens, to keep the Fed’s member banks afloat, and the massive progressive, expensive US government running.”

Greenspan should go first. Most of Wall Street in the 70s were guys making average money until they turned in into a big casino of insiders in the 80s that made money on deals, while our economy was sucked out the door to Asia etc. Watch the documentary Inside Job sometime. Your library probably has it or it is available on line. Hey it won an Oscar.


77 posted on 02/11/2016 12:24:43 PM PST by apoliticalone (Political correctness should be defined as news media that exposes political corruption)
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To: PGR88
Its a nice trick you play there.

Pointing out your errors was not a trick.

US banks issue subprime mortgages to level of 25% in 2006, 90% being ARM. Wall Street sells loans to US Agencies,

Yeah, it was awful.

Market turns, Fed buys troubled assets of JP Morgan, Bear Sterns, AIG under Maiden Lane program

The Fed bought no troubled assets of JP Morgan.

They bought about $30 billion worth from Bear Stearns, at a huge discount, about 50%.

Later they bought a chunk from AIG. About $20 billion. Months after the government took over AIG, in September 2008. After the takeover, they also bought some CDS, spending about $24 billion.

US Gov't buys bad debt, suddenly making it "not junk."

Yes, when the Treasury put Fannie and Freddie into receivership, in September 2008, their bonds became "not junk". The Fed bought the "not junk", later

Federal Reserve prints money to buy US Gov't debt to lower debt financing costs.

Yes, the Fed's profit from their high quality bonds, Treasury and MBS, is turned over to the US Treasury.

78 posted on 02/11/2016 12:36:13 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot ("Telling the government to lower trade barriers to zero...is government interference" central_va)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

I asked you previously to quit using facts and statistics...


79 posted on 02/11/2016 12:36:16 PM PST by EEGator
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To: EEGator

My bad.


80 posted on 02/11/2016 12:38:05 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot ("Telling the government to lower trade barriers to zero...is government interference" central_va)
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