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Rubio’s Aggressive Pro-amnesty Record Betrayed Americans and His Record of Lies
Right Side News ^ | Feb. 7,2016 | Right Side News

Posted on 02/11/2016 2:18:06 PM PST by AuntB

Rubio is the candidate of open borders, Obamatrade and mass immigration, making one last attempt to pull off one big con. A vote for him is a vote for open borders, unlimited refugee resettlement and much more, read on...

Eagle Forum THE 'BIG CON' BEGINS

To win in the 2010 Tea Party Wave, Rubio ran as the anti-amnesty candidate despite an aggressive pro-amnesty record. Politico reports:

"Arturo Vargas, the executive director for the National Association of Latino Elected and Appointed Officials, said Rubio, the son of Cuban exiles born in Miami, blocked 'scorched-earth' legislation that sought to clamp down on illegal immigration. 'He, as speaker, kept many of those from coming up to a vote,' Vargas said. 'We were very proud of his work as speaker of the House.'

"In 2006, Rubio even voted for a bill that would have allowed the children of illegal immigrants to pay the same tuition rates at Florida colleges as residents. Vargas now says Rubio, the candidate, takes a more pointed, less nuanced tone as he stresses border enforcement and his opposition to amnesty. 'He's become your typical candidate in terms of playing to his primary election base...'"

Rubio used amnesty opposition to get elected before coming to Washington to push the biggest mass immigration / amnesty bill anyone had ever seen. He declared of Gov. Crist's position that "an earned path to citizenship is basically code for amnesty," and that illegals seeking citizenship should "return to their homeland," and that "if you grant amnesty as the governor proposes that we do, in any form, whether it's the back of the line or so forth, you will destroy any chance we will ever have of having a legal immigration system that works here in America." THE DREAM ACT

When Rubio came to Washington he immediately began working on the DREAM Act he campaigned against. He staffed his office with several of the most pro-amnesty individuals in Washington (like Cesar Conda) and was limp to the point of lifeless in his response when the President nullified immigration law with the DREAMer executive amnesty.

Then came the Romney defeat. Billionaire donors and their pollsters declared that the GOP must pass an amnesty and mass immigration plan. Rubio then joined the Gang of Eight -- whose members understood that Rubio would be able to sell their disastrous product to conservative media in a way they never could.

Rubio is now cashing in his chits with the big money open-borders crowd. Or, as The Hill put it: "A group of Republican fundraising heavyweights and wise men in Washington's business community are solidly behind Rubio, and see him not only as someone who could win the White House, but someone they can work with." LYING TO CONSERVATIVE MEDIA

Rubio's repeatedly stated reason for joining the Gang was to get the most conservative bill out of the Senate; the reality, however, was that Rubio sold Republican lawmakers on a bill radically to the left of McCain-Kennedy: a bill that granted instant legalization, doubled annual foreign worker admissions (a much larger increase than McCain-Kennedy), issued 30 million green cards, provided mass amnesty, expedited citizenship for DREAMers without an age cap, removed the limits on family-based migration, etc., etc. Rubio's bill was supported by every single Senate Democrat, every single liberal house lawmaker, every progressive politician and group in the country, Nancy Pelosi, Luis Gutierrez, Harry Reid, La Raza, Center for American Progress, George Soros, and on and on. Of course the White House was the biggest champion.

Rubio traded shamelessly on the affection and trust conservatives had placed in him. His deceptions about his immigration bill rivaled and exceeded Obama's claims about disastrous Obamacare.

The seminal moment of the media tour occurred early, on Rush Limbaugh's show. He declared: "if there is not language in this bill that guarantees that nothing else will happen unless these enforcement mechanisms are in place, I won't support it."

Of course, we know there wasn't any such language but he voted for it anyway. But this promise -- and many others -- and the calculated neutralization of conservative media, helped Schumer get 68 votes. But conservatives trusted Rubio. Limbaugh declared: "you are meeting everybody honestly."

Rubio told Hannity, on his media tour, that: "I don't think any of that [amnesty] begins until we certify that the border security progress has been real. That a workplace enforcement mechanism is in place. That we are tracking visitors to our country, especially when they exit." This prompted Hannity to reply: "It's probably the most thoughtful bill that I have heard heretofore." At this point, it looked like the biggest mass immigration plan in history would breeze through Congress -- all without Rubio saying a word about what was really in the heart of the bill: the largest immigration expansion in American history. To this day, Rubio will not answer if asked about how many green cards his bill gave out.

Some of the most-repeated untruths flatly ignored the most basic features of the bill. For instance, in explaining his endorsement of Rubio's product, Bill O'Reilly said: "Senator Rubio told me on the phone today that it would be at least 13 years, 13, before people in the country illegally right now could gain full legal working status and even longer to achieve citizenship." In actuality, they gain legal working status the moment the bill is enacted, and the citizenship provisions begin in 5 years, starting with the DREAMers (who will then be able to get green cards for their foreign relatives).

Rubio pledged in an ABC news interview: "We are going to get the toughest enforcement measures in the history of this country." When the bill was introduced, Rubio put out a fact-check -- and linked up with donors to run ads to the same effect -- which declared Schumer's plan to be "THE TOUGHEST BORDER SECURITY AND ENFORCEMENT PLAN IN U.S. HISTORY." And people believed him.

As the Washington Times reported:

"Mr. Rubio's main public role in the debate wasn't about amendments or specifics; it was about selling the measure to a skeptical conservative electorate. As a face of the 2010 tea party revolution, Mr. Rubio had the kind of lingering good will that gave him the opening Sen. John McCain, Arizona Republican and another key bill author, had long since squandered with much of their party.

"Mr. Rubio's office said he averaged three or four cable television news appearances a week, appeared on every major nationally syndicated talk radio program -- often more than once -- and visited smaller shows, too.

"He set what pundits said was a record by doing seven Sunday political talk shows the same weekend in April -- all five English-language shows and two Spanish-language programs. Mr. Rubio also did four or five Spanish-language interviews a week during the immigration debate."

When people started discovering how the bill violated every one of his promises, Rubio would just insist -- without evidence, without page numbers, without citations -- that charges were untrue. For instance: "In an interview with Ted Cruz, Mark Levin revealed that Rubio texted him about an hour before this interview and told him that what he is saying about the Senate immigration bill is not accurate. He told Cruz that Rubio flat out denies that Napolitano can ignore portions of the bill due to waivers and he asks Cruz if that is correct."

And yet, to this day, Rubio has not only never retracted one of his false statements -- never admitted any wrongdoing -- but never even apologized to those he deceived, and their millions of listeners. Instead, he is raising more money and telling the same lies all over again, as he continues his push for mass amnesty and mass immigration. BACK TAXES AND BACKGROUND CHECKS

Rubio said, often and repeatedly, (and does to this day in pitching his immigration plans) that illegals would have to "pay taxes and undergo a background check." As we know now from the executive amnesty, there is no such thing as "back taxes," for illegal immigrants as most have no net tax liability. Giving illegals Social Security numbers and the ability to collect tax credits represents a huge net cost to taxpayers, whereby the IRS mails illegal immigrants thousands of dollars in free benefits. Those granted amnesty under the plan became immediately eligible for ACTC and EITC. Amendments to actually require illegal immigrants to pay back taxes were defeated in the committee.

As for background checks, his bill allows the Secretary to grant amnesty to serious criminals including known gang members; those with convictions for serious crimes such as drug trafficking, sexual abuse, prostitution; those with any type of arrest record; fugitives from deportation orders and those who have been deported -- for any reason -- and are no longer in the country, or have illegally re-entered after being deported. ADMINISTRATIVE DISCRETION

One of the big jokes in the behemoth bill was that the pointless enforcement mechanisms were all at the discretion of the Administration. Rubio explained: "the security triggers are not left at the discretion of politicians with agendas. Real measurable results must be achieved, and politicians cannot override them." As it was, this whole thing was happening in a post-executive amnesty environment. But the bill drastically expanded executive discretion beyond imagination. In fact, Rubio's immigration bill -- designed by open borders advocates to end immigration law enforcement -- had more waivers per page than Obamacare! WE'LL FIX THE BILL

When criticism reached a point Rubio could not easily paper over, he adopted a new tactic: promising to fix the bill before it passed. In a closed-door House meeting, Rubio pledged to conservative lawmakers that he would oppose the bill unless it was fixed. As ABC wrote: "now that he's hearing serious resistance to the bill from his fellow conservatives, he's threatening to vote 'no' on the very bill he helped write unless changes are made to strengthen the border security provisions." Washington Post wrote: "Rubio's been saying for weeks that he can't support the bill in its current form." Rubio even launched a page on his website, saying: "submit your ideas below, on ways we can improve" the bill.

He even published a WSJ op-ed which began with this sentence: "intense public scrutiny has helped identify shortcomings and unintended consequences that need to be addressed."

This was the new tactic: every time someone has a concern, just tell them it will get fixed in committee or on the floor. Consider this question from Sean Hannity: "Are you telling conservatives then to be patient with you? That the bill is not finished and maybe they've read too much into it too early?"

But this was another ruse: the Gang of Eight was working together to ensure no real changes were ever made to the bill.

The Washington Post reported: "the eight met in private before each committee hearing, hashing out which amendments they would support and which oppose as a united coalition. Senate aides said amendments were rejected if either side felt they would shatter the deal." Politico reported: "During the Judiciary Committee markup in May, the Gang routinely met to decide which amendments they would support or oppose. In one meeting, the Senators thought they had all agreed to defeat a proposal from Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL) to require a biometric exit and entry at points of entry before undocumented immigrants could secure green cards, according to one Senate Democratic aide." A hot mic confirmed it to the whole world: "A hot microphone caught Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY) coordinating which way members of the 'Gang of Eight' who serve on the Senate Judiciary Committee would vote on immigration bill amendments... 'Do our Republicans have a pass on this one if they want?' the microphone caught Schumer saying." What Schumer was referring to was that the bill -- written with special interests like the Chamber of Commerce and La Raza -- was to be protected from any amendment that advanced an interest other than those signed off on by these outside groups. The writing of the bill, in many major respects, was outsourced to industry groups.

When the bill came to the floor -- before Reid completely shut down the amendment process -- Rubio joined the entire Gang of Eight in voting down an amendment to require completion of the entry-exit tracking system and the border fence before the amnesty. Rubio even voted down Chairman Grassley's amendment to require enforcement first -- again, keeping with his private deal to protect the amnesty at all costs.

Reid then shut off all amendments and the Gang of Eight famously filed a new 1,200-page substitute bill -- worse than original -- and invoked cloture, ending all amendment and ensuring a final vote before anyone could read it. This broke Rubio's other promise: "Sen. Rubio has said he would not support this legislation if it was rushed through."

The final product surely was one of the worst bills mashed together in the history of legislation itself. THE MERIT-BASED MYTH

One of Rubio's constant selling points for the bill was that it transformed our immigration system from family-based to merit-based. He said this over and over. In many respects, it was one of the biggest deceptions of all. The bill issued approximately 33 million green cards in ten years. At an absolute maximum, under the bill, 2.5 million of those green cards would be issued on a merit basis (the merit-based section covered 120,000-250,000 visas a year). But it gets worse: even within the merit-system, it favors low-skilled and family-based immigrants. For instance: the foreign sibling of a U.S. citizen with no education would receive 10 points; an alien with a bachelor's degree would receive five points. An alien from a country with low immigration rates to the U.S. with no education would receive the same five points as well.

And it gets worse still -- despite making the "merit-based" system one of his central selling points, the bill substantially increased chain migration by allowing for an unlimited number of visas for children and spouses of green card holders (including all illegal aliens given green cards), leaving intact the unlimited visas for the parents of citizens (including for illegals, beginning with adult DREAMers parents, spouses and children in the first 5 years), and clearing the so-called backlog of 5 million immigrants (mostly low-skilled and family-based) with surplus applications to enter the U.S. beyond existing annual limits.

As the liberal Migration Policy Institute explained: "the Senate bill would lift numerical limits and increase the number of permanent visas issued on the basis of nuclear family ties... [and] would dramatically expand options for low- and middle-skilled foreign workers to fill year-round, longer-term jobs and ultimately qualify for permanent residence." The Center for American Progress crowed that the family-based system would be three times larger than the merit-based system under the new plan (not even counting the amnesty).

Yet Rubio's office claimed that: "Those given legal status will not be able to use chain migration or anything else to bring family members into the U.S." This statement defies comprehension. Under current law, illegals cannot legally bring a single relative to the United States. Under Rubio's plan, they are given green cards and made citizens, guaranteeing them the right to bring relatives to the United States. And the bill goes further, expanding dramatically the way that green card holders -- including every single amnestied illegal -- can bring their relatives to the United States. "THE SIZE OF THE FUTURE POPULATION OF THE UNITED STATES WILL NOT BE IMPACTED"

One of the more extraordinary claims Rubio made was that the immigration bill would not increase (the already-record) rate of immigration into the United States. Rubio's office put out a fact-check declaring: "the size of the future population of the United States will not be significantly impacted by this legislation." Nevermind that CBO, Migration Policy Institute, NumbersUSA, Center For Immigration Studies, and Senator Sessions' office all painstakingly documented the massive immigration increases in the bill.

Under the bill, had it been enacted in 2013, the foreign-born share of the U.S. population would eclipse every known historical record by 2022. The total number of green cards issued would have tripled. Based on CBO data, the foreign-born population from outside the U.S. (not counting illegals inside the U.S. granted amnesty) would have grown 24 million in just a ten-year time frame. To put all that in perspective, during the first full decade of Kennedy's 1965 immigration law, less than 5 million new immigrants were issued green cards.

But Rubio never discussed any of this openly. Instead he relied on vague euphemisms: saying his goal was "modernizing the legal immigration system to meet America's 21st-century economic needs for both highly skilled talent and guest workers to fill labor shortages."

Rubio's entire career rests on the fact that no one will question his syrupy scripted bites and homeroom-president style rehearsed speeches. NO WELFARE

To the end, Rubio declared that there would be no welfare allowed to illegals, and this was featured in a prominent ad on TV throughout the debate. For example, Rubio said: "And then they don't qualify for any federal benefits. This is an important point. No federal benefits, no food stamps, no welfare, no Obamacare." The rebuttal here is short: every illegal immigrant given a green card gains automatic, guaranteed access to federal welfare, every illegal alien given a work permit gains access to tax credits, and every illegal immigrant made a citizen gains access to everything. In the interim, the bill allows illegals to claim generous state and local benefits (along with federal tax credits). The benefits cost for the amnesty population would run into the trillions. DECEIVING LAW ENFORCEMENT

Senator Rubio met with corporate interests to craft the Gang of Eight plan but not America's ICE officers. Eventually, right before the bill was dropped, Rubio finally did meet with the ICE Officers' President Chris Crane and promised him he would "fix the bill." But Rubio did no such thing -- in fact he made things worse -- not better -- for ICE, and Crane was livid. The bill would have permanently destroyed immigration enforcement while legalizing dangerous aliens and exposing citizens to a rash of crime that could otherwise be stopped in its tracks. Crane issued a press release which said:

"Senator Rubio, who promised ICE officers and Sheriffs that he would take steps to repair the bill's provisions that gut interior enforcement, has abandoned that commitment. He directly misled law enforcement officers. Senator Rubio left unchanged legislative provisions that he himself admitted to us in private were detrimental, flawed and must be changed. Legislation written behind closed doors by handpicked special interest groups which put their political agendas and financial gains before sound and effective law and the welfare and safety of the American public. As a result, the 1,200-page substitute bill before the Senate will provide instant legalization and a path to citizenship to gang members and other dangerous criminal aliens, and handcuff ICE officers from enforcing immigration laws in the future."

If that wasn't bad enough, the Gang of Eight members on the Judiciary committee killed an amendment that would have stripped the amnesty-for-gang-members provision in the bill -- i.e. a simple amendment to deny amnesty to gang members was defeated, ensuring that Rubio's bill would allow illegal immigrant gang members to become citizens and bring their relatives to join them in the United States.

Rubio, during his time as Florida Speaker, also let a bill die to block sanctuary cities -- and Miami is one of the biggest sanctuary cities in the country.

Revealing Rubio's character, it is also worth recalling that during his introduction press conference, Rubio stood frozen like a statue as ICE officer, council President, and former Marine Chris Crane was removed from the room for trying to ask a question. Shameful. Crane would later testify: "Never before have I seen such contempt for law enforcement officers as I've seen from the Gang of Eight."

Perhaps the single most telling fact is who reportedly joined Rubio's campaign team as staff or advisor: the exact same team that brought you the Gang of Eight bill: the same attorney who wrote it (Enrique Gonzalez), the same communications staffers who sold it, the same Senate Chief of Staff who helped dream it all up (Cesar Conda) and, most importantly, the campaign strategist more associated with mass immigration than any consultant in America (Whit Ayres).

The open-borders donors, like Paul Singer, know exactly what they are buying with Senator Rubio. They are in on the con, and their mark is America.

CONCLUSION

There is no single major distinguishing policy difference between Marco Rubio, John McCain or Lindsey Graham. They have the same trade policy, immigration policy and foreign policy. But on immigration most especially -- the issue in which all four have invested the most -- there is no daylight separating them.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: amnesty; cesarconda; immigration; rubio
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Very long...go to link for the rest of it.

It is most interesting to go back and see what Rubio had to say about the issues when he made his announcement speech to run for president last April.

This is what he said about Terrorism, the Middle East, Isis:

NOTHING, not a word, but he mentioned CUBA twice!

"Cuban exiles" and "poor families in Cuba"

Here is what he said about immigration:

"modernize our immigration laws"

Yep, THAT is it, except for this in Spanish..

En este pais, ustedes van a poder lograr todas las cosas que nosotros no pudimos. (In this country, you will achieve all the things we never could.)

http://time.com/3820475/transcript-read-full-text-of-sen-marco-rubios-campaign-launch/

How about TRADE: They are busy looking backward, so they do not see how jobs and prosperity today depend on our ability to compete in a global economy.

How 'bout the 2nd amendment? ZERO

SO...what DOES matter to Marco Rubio?

1 posted on 02/11/2016 2:18:06 PM PST by AuntB
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To: AuntB

Rubio has already shown himself to be a backstabber

Never give more knives to backstabbers

Anyone who sides with illegal aliens and their employers against the citizens and the rule of law should be banished politically.


2 posted on 02/11/2016 2:20:00 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: AuntB

He’s going down next debate. The field will be just Trump and Cruz and maybe Kucinich.


3 posted on 02/11/2016 2:20:33 PM PST by SkyDancer ("Nobody Said I Was Perfect But Yet Here I Am")
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To: AuntB

All hail the Latino Eddie Haskell !!

LEH: “ That’s a nice upper middle class job your husband has, Mrs. Cleaver. Too bad it’s going to my pals in India “


4 posted on 02/11/2016 2:20:46 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) since Nov 2014 (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: Lurkinanloomin

“Anyone who sides with illegal aliens and their employers against the citizens and the rule of law should be banished politically.”

You are way nicer than me. I was thinking Gitmo : )


5 posted on 02/11/2016 2:23:58 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) since Nov 2014 (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: SkyDancer; Lurkinanloomin; Albion Wilde; stephenjohnbanker; HiJinx; All

Here is another must read to understand Rubio and the people who own him.

Feb. 5, 2016
The Real Story Behind Candidates’ Stances on Detention Centers

[snip]Marco Rubio

While Donald Trump garners most of the headlines about immigration on the GOP side because of his egregious, racist comments, it’s actually Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) who has the most nefarious ties to the immigrant detention system. Rubio’s PACs and campaign have taken a total of $133,450 from private prison companies or groups that lobby on their behalf, but Rubio’s relationship with these companies goes back further than the campaign trail.

As the Washington Post reported, Rubio has had close ties to GEO for years, since his time as speaker of the Florida House of Representatives. The Republican Party of Florida PAC has received over $2 million from GEO and CCA since 1989 and in 2010, GEO and its affiliates provided $33,500 to political action committees benefiting Florida Republicans, including the Marco Rubio for U.S. Senate PAC. As of April 2015, GEO’s co-founder and chief executive, George Zoley, had personally donated thousands of dollars to Rubio.

This is not just a matter of accepting money from companies with histories of human rights abuse allegations in their detention centers and prisons. The bigger question, especially as it relates to Rubio, is how accepting this money influences policy—and it seems to have done so. There are documented instances of private-prison companies appearing to influence policies that put more people in detention centers, including Arizona’s racist immigration laws, which pass, in part, because of companies like GEO and CCA that lobby for funding for ICE.

The Center for Media and Democracy detailed how Rubio’s connections to GEO during his time in the Florida house gave the private prison company a seat at the table. Rubio hired Donna Arduin as an economic consultant; Arduin is a former trustee for GEO’s Correctional Properties Trust. According to reports, Arduin worked with Rubio’s then-budget chief, Ray Sansom, to push a $110 million deal for a new GEO prison in the House Appropriations Bill. In the same report, the Center for Media and Democracy detailed how legislation that benefited GEO followed Arduin’s presence in government from California to Florida.

When Rubio won the Senate seat in 2011, he appointed Cesar Conda as his chief of staff. Conda was co-founder of what would become GEO’s main lobbying firm, Navigators Global. While working with Rubio, Conda still received payments of $150,000 from Navigators Global as part of a stock buyout arrangement. The Washington Post reports that in April 2014, Conda went on to lead Rubio’s Reclaim America PAC as a senior adviser, until rejoining Navigators Global in November of that year. During Conda’s time with Rubio, GEO became a top-ten contributor to Reclaim America, giving $16,000 in 2014. Navigators Global also obtained $610,000 from GEO between 2011 and 2014, all while it lobbied for immigration reform on GEO’s behalf.

Rubio does not address detention once in his immigration plan.


6 posted on 02/11/2016 2:24:05 PM PST by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: All

Sorry! Link to post # 6

http://rhrealitycheck.org/article/2016/02/05/real-story-behind-candidates-stances-detention-centers/


7 posted on 02/11/2016 2:24:50 PM PST by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: AuntB

pretty close to what ted did fortpp...isn’t it...with he and his wife’s back door connect to govt sacks and one world govt?


8 posted on 02/11/2016 2:25:43 PM PST by ldish (Have had enough...you??????)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Marco Rubio has an unblemished record of loyalty, and promises to be the greatest ever president of ... Aztlan.


9 posted on 02/11/2016 2:27:11 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: AuntB

Rubio’s number one problem is the fact that he betrayed all he ever met:

He betrayed his friend, Jeb Bush, who supported him morally and sent him a check even, in his FL congressional and senatorial, state and federal endeavors.

He betrayed the TEA party, who worked avidly to make him Senator of FL, instantly, as soon as he saw the big columns in DC.

He betrayed legal Americans and America with his Gang of Eight.

He still betrays the two, above, when he speaks in Spanish to Jorge Ramos and tells 180 degrees different on amnesty, saying in Spanish that he’ll “keep president Obama’s amnesty deal”, but tells the viewers in English that he wouldn’t.

He betrayed all the FL residents by being absent from DC and not performing his senatorial duties, in pursuit of yet another position.

He never has staying power for more than a few months, after he wins any position.

The media all call him an “establishment insider candidate”. He ran for the senate as an outsider, in the TEA party, and was a total deceiver as soon as he hit DC.

He is, in simple words, Benedicto Arnold to all he ever met, depending on what his incredible political ambitions are.

His second biggest problem is inexperience in the real world.

He has never produced or built anything. He was a lawyer for a very brief time. Other than that he has never even run a taco stand.

Trump/Cruz 2016


10 posted on 02/11/2016 2:27:54 PM PST by Lions Gate
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To: AuntB

Not a Rubio supporter but he did come forward when he discovered the backstabbing by McCain,Burr and Graham.

Some,may recall Rubio and his family being threatened AFTER he went public. Rubio may never recover but the whole truth should be out there. For some Rubio being Catholic and Hispanic is enough to hate him.


11 posted on 02/11/2016 2:28:17 PM PST by rrrod (just an old guy with a gun in his pocket.l)
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To: AuntB
I know who Rubio is but this was an informative article for people who know nothing more than "Rubio speaks good" on the debate stage.

More interesting to me, is a Cavuto "headline" today that said Rubio was speaking about a "brokered Convention" to win the White House. Hmmmmmm......

12 posted on 02/11/2016 2:34:16 PM PST by TXSearcher (Longtime Lurker......now a newbie)
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To: AuntB

Reality check please. People disagree about immigration. People disagree about Obamacare. People disagree about socialism, capitalism and corporatism.

To go ad hominem against someone because you disagree on the issue implies that your arguments on the issue are weak so you have to resort to ad hominem. In short, ad hominem says more about you than about the person you attack.

Rubio isn’t my choice. He is not the best choice. But he also is no the devil. He isn’t even royalty like Jeb.


13 posted on 02/11/2016 2:44:22 PM PST by spintreebob
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To: AuntB

Excellent article - I’ve been posting it on various threads along with the entire “conclusion” ... the last paragraph, if nothing else, should render him ineligible as President/VP for anyone who believes that unless we have borders, we don’t have a country. As I like to put it, Rubio is an open borders wolf masquerading as a “conservative/tea party” sheep.

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From the “CONCLUSION”:

There is no single major distinguishing policy difference between Marco Rubio, John McCain or Lindsey Graham. They have the same trade policy, immigration policy and foreign policy. But on immigration most especially — the issue in which all four have invested the most — there is no daylight separating them.

The difference, then, is one of persona, not policy. And in the arena of immigration, this translates into a vital difference. The biggest change from McCain-Kennedy, which could not get out of the Senate, and the Gang of Eight — which was nursed along by conservative pundits despite being to the left of Kennedy’s bill — was the presence of Rubio. Rubio created the conditions necessary to produce a considerably more open borders bill: conservatives who were invested in the Rubio Brand provided no early pushback but accepted Kennedy’s old talking points, and Rubio gave red state Democrats the political space necessary to support it. This is how it got 68 votes in the Senate.

The stakes of course are raised considerably if Rubio is President or Vice President. Rubio would have a much, much better chance than Obama of getting an open borders bill through Congress — while Boehner could refuse to bring up Obama’s mass immigration/amnesty bill for vote in 2014, Ryan would never refuse Rubio’s bill. Rubio’s presence, as it did with the Gang of Eight, would create the cover for both certain Republicans and all Democrats to get behind a far more open borders plan. Given that nearly every House Democrat sponsored the Gang of Eight House version (including Pelosi and Gutierrez), Ryan would not need to gather that many additional votes (House GOP leaders might have refused Obama’s 2014 request for a vote but they would not refuse President Rubio’s).

All of which adds up to: there is likely no person in the United States of America in a better position to enact mass immigration legislation than a President Rubio — no one who could deliver more votes in both parties for open borders immigration. Senator Rubio is not Main Street’s Obama, he is Wall Street’s Obama: President Obama was a hardcore leftist running as centrist; Senator Rubio is a Wall Street globalist running as a tea party conservative.

Unlike other legislation, the effects of bad immigration policy cannot be repealed. They are forever. The Republican party would never nominate a pro-Obamacare candidate, and it must be an even stronger maxim that it should not nominate any candidate who is committed to a policy of mass immigration. Rubio wrote the Obamacare of immigration policies: a bill that would have eviscerated the middle class, plunged millions into poverty, legalized the most dangerous aliens on the planet, overwhelmed our schools and safety nets, and done irreversible violence to the idea of America as a nation-state. Rubio is the candidate of open borders, Obamatrade and mass immigration, making one last attempt to pull off one big con.


14 posted on 02/11/2016 2:44:36 PM PST by Qiviut (In Islam you have to die for Allah. The God I worship died for me. [Franklin Graham])
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To: AuntB

Amnesty seems to be one of the few things that matter to Robot Rubio. Nobody who actively pushes amnesty should be supported.


15 posted on 02/11/2016 2:46:23 PM PST by apocalypto
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To: spintreebob; rrrod

see post #14


16 posted on 02/11/2016 2:52:41 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: AuntB

I have some interesting things about how the U.S. and Cuba are interacting...

http://interactive.sun-sentinel.com/cuban-adjustment-act/loophole/

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/us-cuba-welfare-benefits/sfl-us-cuba-welfare-benefits-part-1-htmlstory.html

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/us-cuba-welfare-benefits/sfl-us-cuba-welfare-benefits-part-2-htmlstory.html

Thanks AuntB for the ping....


17 posted on 02/11/2016 2:54:51 PM PST by HarleyLady27 ("The Force Awakens"!!! TRUMP;TRUMP;TRUMP;TRUMP!!! 100%)
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To: AuntB

Rubio trump both support amnesty. Not trustworthy, both of them


18 posted on 02/11/2016 2:55:21 PM PST by RginTN (Donald J Trump- why would the people of Ky want a rookie senator when they have Sen Mitch Mcconnell)
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To: RginTN; All

“Rubio trump both support amnesty. Not trustworthy, both of them”

No, and you likely know better or you would have provided the evidence, which there is none...TRUMP does not support amnesty...he wants ALL aliens deported and then they apply to see if they can be granted legal entry.

How sad to represent your candidate by lying about someone else.

Trump was the first to call for deportation of illegal aliens in this race. Fact.

Cruz and Rubio barely mentioned immigration in their announcement speeches.

http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/3395582/posts?page=136#136


19 posted on 02/11/2016 3:05:31 PM PST by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: AuntB
The Kid is a GOPe, Washington elite follower.

No Way a Conservative leader!

20 posted on 02/11/2016 3:05:35 PM PST by TexasCajun (#BlackViolenceMatters)
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