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Trump supporters file 'birther' lawsuit against Cruz in federal court
The Hill ^ | 02/12/2016 | Bradford Richardson

Posted on 02/12/2016 11:22:56 AM PST by GIdget2004

Donald Trump supporters have filed a lawsuit challenging the eligibility of one of his primary rivals, Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas), to run for president.

The lawsuit, filed Feb. 3 at a district court in Alabama, seeks a judgment "declaring that Rafael Edward Cruz is ineligible to qualify/run/seek and be elected to the Office of the President of the United States of America" due to his Canadian birth. Cruz was born in Calgary, Canada, to an American mother.

The five plaintiffs — Sebastian Green, Shannon Duncan, Kathryn Spears, Kyle Spears and Jerry Parker — are all backing Trump in the Republican primary, according to AL.com.

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


TOPICS: Canada; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: birthers; birthorama; cruz; cruznbc; nostanding; orly; repositorycruz; tinfoilhat; trump; trumpkoolaid; ufocrowd
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To: Forty-Niner

Suits against Obama happened at all phases of the elction process. The courts invoked Catch-22.


121 posted on 02/12/2016 12:07:11 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

Will do.


122 posted on 02/12/2016 12:07:29 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

“Yes...yes there is.”

Which US President was born outside the US ??


123 posted on 02/12/2016 12:07:36 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: justlittleoleme

St. George Tucker, an early federal judge, wrote in his 1803 edition of William Blackstone’s Commentaries on the Laws of England, perhaps the leading authority for the delegates to the Constitutional Convention for the terms used in the Constitution, that the natural born citizen clause is “a happy means of security against foreign influence” and that “[t]he admission of foreigners into our councils, consequently, cannot be too much guarded against.”[33] In a footnote, Tucker wrote that naturalized citizens have the same rights as the natural-born except “they are forever incapable of being chosen to the office of president of the United States.”[34]

John Bingham, an American lawyer and politician, held to the belief that natural born should be interpreted as born in the United States. In 1862, in the House of Representatives he stated:

The Constitution leaves no room for doubt upon this subject. The words ‘natural born citizen of the United States’ appear in it, and the other provision appears in it that, “Congress shall have power to pass a uniform system of naturalization.” To naturalize a person is to admit him to citizenship. Who are natural born citizens but those born within the Republic? Those born within the Republic, whether black or white, are citizens by birth—natural born citizens.[39]

He reiterated his statement in 1866:

Every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural-born citizen; but, sir, I may be allowed to say further that I deny that the Congress of the United States ever had the power, or color of power to say that any man born within the jurisdiction of the United States, not owing a foreign allegiance, is not and shall not be a citizen of the United States. Citizenship is his birthright and neither the Congress nor the States can justly or lawfully take it from him.[40]


124 posted on 02/12/2016 12:07:42 PM PST by Maelstrom (To prevent misinterpretation or abuse of the Constitution:The Bill of Rights limits government power)
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To: Cboldt; dartuser

Cruz cannot break a law that has not been legislated. There is no binding formula defining NBC. Under such conditions, Cruz can act on a professionally competent and good faith understanding of ballot access law without expectation of penalty.

Peace,

SR


125 posted on 02/12/2016 12:07:45 PM PST by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Maelstrom

“Congress NEVER had the power to determine who was, or was not a Natural Born Citizen. It exists *nowhere* in the Constitution, just as the law or Amendment that gives you the Right to Keep and Bear Arms is NOWHERE in the Constitution. Both are based upon Natural Law. (The 2nd Amendment only protects that pre-existing RtK&BA.)”

lol so we’re a natural born citizen of nothing?

Because the Congress makes laws for the United States. The 2nd Amendment doesn’t give anything. It limits the government.

You can’t be a citizen of something that doesn’t exist.


126 posted on 02/12/2016 12:08:17 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: grania

I like both Cruz and Trump and, IMO, Cruz is eligible. But I’d like to get a ruling on it sooner than later. Otherwise I can see a scenario where Cruz gets the nomination, the Democrats sue over his eligibility, Cruz is found ineligible, and we end up with Bush as the nominee.


127 posted on 02/12/2016 12:08:22 PM PST by Kipp
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To: EternalHope

Debunked


128 posted on 02/12/2016 12:08:37 PM PST by Dstorm (Cruz 2016)
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To: HarleyLady27

To be a citizen .. you only have to be born to a CITIZEN. Cruz has been born to a mother who was a legal citizen of America at the time of his birth.

YOU DO NOT HAVE TO BE BORN ON AMERICAN SOIL.


129 posted on 02/12/2016 12:09:09 PM PST by CyberAnt ("The Fields are White Unto Harvest")
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To: Forty-Niner

again imho, it didn’t work on obozo because of the corrupt establishment that controls the politicians and the system


130 posted on 02/12/2016 12:09:17 PM PST by drypowder
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To: GIdget2004

Good.
As a Cruz supporter, I welcome the truth on this matter.

Get a Federal judge to rule on Cruz one way or another so that Trump can get back to policy discussions rather than Trump’s childish Twitter threats to bring Cruz to court.

Jeepers. Its not like Trump is lacking the money, legal help or standing to challenge Cruz’s eligibility. Why doesn’t Trump do this himself, rather than using surrogates? (Answer: then it would be one less silly mode of attack that Twitter-boy could use)


131 posted on 02/12/2016 12:09:32 PM PST by kidd
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To: Tenacious 1

LOL, ruffled your feathers, did it?


132 posted on 02/12/2016 12:09:43 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: The Final Harvest

correct, see my post above- it stats just what you said, and is from the site on uscis which gives the outlines for who is a citizen and who needs to be naturalized- Ted does not-


133 posted on 02/12/2016 12:10:41 PM PST by Bob434
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To: Cboldt

I hear you.

I fully believe that neither Cruz nor Rubio are qualified, as per original intent.

But that doesn’t necessarily mean that I think the courts are the right place to resolve the matter.

Because no matter how the courts might rule, that won’t change original intent or what the Constitution, the supreme law of our land, requires.


134 posted on 02/12/2016 12:11:03 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: hoosiermama
Case 5:16-cv-00207-HGD, Green et al v. Cruz, filed Feb 3, 2016.

The complaint is pretty short, I could post the entire text. Turns out I've had this on my computer since Feb 6.

135 posted on 02/12/2016 12:11:20 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: longfellow

Agreed


136 posted on 02/12/2016 12:11:22 PM PST by Maelstrom (To prevent misinterpretation or abuse of the Constitution:The Bill of Rights limits government power)
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To: Parley Baer

You are assuming he is interested in being anyone’s VP.


137 posted on 02/12/2016 12:11:34 PM PST by longfellowsmuse (last of the living nomads)
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To: Hoodat
From the article's linked source in this thread:I would say that Rafael Edward TED CRUZ is the defendant.
But remember from before WHAT I linked to, as far as the United States Constitution, pay particular attention to U.S. Constitution - Article 1 Section 8. Also, pay particular attention to U.S. Constitution - Article I, section 5 As I have commented on before and supported with links, in the article Akhil Reed Amar, author of CNN's Why Ted Cruz is eligible to be president wrote: NOTE: nonjusticiable political question

Now, let's take a close look at the word "NATURALIZATION", its history, and FROM WHERE it was derived .
What is the root word of "Naturalization" ? Not only could the Founding Father define "natural born citizen", BUT ... THE FOUNDING FATHERS DID DEFINE IT !


The Naturalization Act of 1790, let's read it !


Take a look at the original one WRITTEN BY our FOUNDING FATHERS,
and VERIFY IT FOR YOURSELF in the list of NAMES of the members of our FIRST CONGRESS !



1st United States Congress, 21-26 Senators and 59-65 Representatives


Finally, read the latest from links provided by the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS), the government agency that oversees lawful immigration to the United States. READ IT VERY CLOSELY.
138 posted on 02/12/2016 12:12:20 PM PST by Yosemitest (It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: GIdget2004

As I am sure others here have pointed out - these people do not have standing, so this will do nothing but obfuscate the situation further.


139 posted on 02/12/2016 12:12:51 PM PST by Ladysforest
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To: The Final Harvest

They aren’t credible. First of all many, many senators, congressmen and presidents have lawsuits filed against them but they are still serving and doing their job. Obama is one example. As for Trump..he is either suing someone, being sued or threatening to sue. He is a boy named “Sue” how do you do? Cruz is an American and eligible and if he is sued and after he wins I hope he counter sues for tons of money and builds “Cruz Towers” in Texas


140 posted on 02/12/2016 12:13:03 PM PST by katiedidit1
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