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Cruz: Trump May Owe ‘Billions’ in Loans to Big Banks (Feb 1 article)
PJ Media ^ | FEBRUARY 1, 2016 | MICHAEL VAN DER GALIEN

Posted on 02/12/2016 8:27:07 PM PST by TBP

When Donald Trump heard that Ted Cruz had taken out a loan from Goldman Sachs (against his own investments, by the way), he lashed out at his rival. The loan proved that Cruz was owned by the banks! He could not be trusted! He'd just do Goldman's bidding!

Oh my, how terrible! Yes, Cruz was clearly a crony of the big banks.

This criticism caused the Cruz campaign to study Trump's own finances a bit. What they've discovered is downright shocking:

Republican presidential hopeful Ted Cruz on Sunday said GOP front-runner Donald Trump owes “hundreds of millions or even billions” in unpaid loans. “If you look at his financial disclosure, he owes at least $480 million right now, and it could be billions,” Cruz said on “Fox News Sunday.” Cruz then lashed out at Trump for criticizing him for taking out a one million dollar loan:

He knows this loan story is complete nonsense. It’s also the height of chutzpah for someone who owes hundreds of millions of dollars, if not billions of dollars, to attack Heidi and me because we put our life savings into running for Senate. And that brings me to The Donald's character. This man is a pathological liar with no moral compass whatsoever. Time and again, he accuses his rivals of doing something he -- Trump -- himself is guilty of it. See also his accusation that evangelical leader Bob Vander Plaats demanded $100,000 to speak at a rally in Iowa, with the facts proving that Trump demanded that incredibly amount and got it.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 1stcanadiansenator; 2016election; banks; bigbanks; boughtandpiadfor; cruz; gangof14; hypocrisy; michaevandergalien; nothingburger; postingfor; propagandadujour; strawgrasping; tbptroll; tdsmeetingplace; tdsparty; tedcruz; tedspacificpartners; theycomeoutatnight; trump; trumpfinances; usualsuspect
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To: 20yearsofinternet

LOL

And the award for drama goes to...

Good one.


101 posted on 02/12/2016 9:26:39 PM PST by DoughtyOne (the Free Republic Caucus: what FReepers are thinking, 100s or 1000s of them. It's up to you.)
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To: TBP

been wondering how Cruz has helped the big banks since trump says he is owned by them. Haven’t seen evidence of them owning him.
Yet Trump can declare bankruptcy 4 times and still get banks to loan him money....the common man can’t do that!


102 posted on 02/12/2016 9:26:55 PM PST by RginTN (Donald J Trump- why would the people of Ky want a rookie senator when they have Sen Mitch Mcconnell)
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To: datura

from the WSJ article:

New ACN recruits pay $499 to become “independent business owners.” Representatives can earn money by selling ACN services to others. Marketing materials emphasize recruiting new salespeople, who often buy ACN services as well as sell them. These new sales agents then are encouraged to recruit others.

Some regulators and consumer advocates have raised concerns about ACN’s business model, saying that few participants end up making money.

ACN has successfully fought off legal actions by regulators in Montana, Canada and Australia who claimed it was running a pyramid scheme, in which income comes primarily from recruiting new members instead of selling products. Canadian and Australian courts decided the company’s business model didn’t violate anti-pyramid-scheme laws, and in Montana, ACN resolved the matter by agreeing to beef up training

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I was forced to learn more than I ever want to know about companies like this

My wife was sucker....it damn near destroyed our marriage

Cant tell you how it worked exactly but fortuitously Trump sold off his holdings in ANC and made more money It was as well timed as Hillary’s cattle futures

This is what you want for a President?


103 posted on 02/12/2016 9:26:59 PM PST by woofie
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To: txnativegop
True.
We won't “care” about the idiotic slams the idiots send our way.
You didn't opine as to why we won't care, but let me attempt to “educate you”.

Even we supposedly uneducated, low level white, blue and pink collar, paycheck to paycheck employees, understand financial business transactions... and have at least a rudimentary understanding of costs, value adds and cash flows.

Trump supporters will never drink the suicidal sugared poison of the New World Order.

104 posted on 02/12/2016 9:27:00 PM PST by sarasmom (Trump)
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To: txnativegop

free Republic needs to chang its name to ‘Trump Republic. Any non supporter be warned


105 posted on 02/12/2016 9:27:55 PM PST by Breto (Stranger in a strange land... where did America go?)
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To: vette6387

I like and agree with your comments.

I had never had any real observation of Bush other than Terry Schiavo.

Now this. Wow. This guy is a clown.


106 posted on 02/12/2016 9:28:33 PM PST by DoughtyOne (the Free Republic Caucus: what FReepers are thinking, 100s or 1000s of them. It's up to you.)
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To: Breto

It does seem that way sometimes doesn’t?

Oh well, they have a right to their opinions.


107 posted on 02/12/2016 9:30:22 PM PST by txnativegop (Tired of liberals, even a few in my own family.)
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To: Just mythoughts

Read the damned link....and try real hard to comprehend what you have read.


108 posted on 02/12/2016 9:32:36 PM PST by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie)
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To: woofie

Were those Bankruptcies Chapter 11 Reorganization or Chapter 13 Liquidation?

Reorganization means the Business continues running while the Debts are renegotiated through the Bankruptcy Court.

Liquidation means the Business is closed, the Employees are fired and the Assets are sold off to pay Creditors.

Just saw the Jeb Bush Ad mentioning them. They didn’t clarify the details. Trump has / had 100 Companies under the Umbrella of the Trump Organization, so I would think that means he has a 96% Success Rate.

Just looking for clarity since I am not a carrier of either the CDS or TDS Viruses. I may be infected with BDS and RDS Strains, but they only flare up if Bush or Rubio get over 10% of the Vote.


109 posted on 02/12/2016 9:33:16 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (Get the CDS and TDS Vaccines before it's too late.)
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To: woofie

I’m sorry for your loss and suffering.

I went thru something similar with my wife as well in modeling.


110 posted on 02/12/2016 9:34:37 PM PST by datura (Proud Infidel)
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To: XenaLee

Who the hell are you to issue orders around here?

Your no one’s boss inside this forum.


111 posted on 02/12/2016 9:37:12 PM PST by datura (Proud Infidel)
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To: TBP

Trump submitted his financials when he announced, they were perfect. If he had billions in loans like Cruz says it would have been headlines.

Cruz has got to stop lying.


112 posted on 02/12/2016 9:37:21 PM PST by Kenny (RED)
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113 posted on 02/12/2016 9:38:32 PM PST by DoughtyOne (the Free Republic Caucus: what FReepers are thinking, 100s or 1000s of them. It's up to you.)
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To: datura

Lol...well look who just butted in.

Just trying to keep Trump fawners from the equivalency of putting their fingers in their ears and singing “Lalalalala” when confronted with and presented with inconvenient FACTS.

But by all means...

sing away!


114 posted on 02/12/2016 9:41:55 PM PST by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie)
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To: Kickass Conservative

I understand they were chapter 11 and Ive heard pro and con.

I do remember one years ago where they talked about Trump having the banks over a barrel .If they stopped lending him money they were going to lose their shirts probably because he threatened Chapter 13.

a quick Google search :

http://www.alternet.org/story/156234/exposing_how_donald_trump_really_made_his_fortune%3A_inheritance_from_dad_and_the_government’s_protection_mostly_did_the_trick

the more you learn ....the more questions there are


115 posted on 02/12/2016 9:42:03 PM PST by woofie
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To: XenaLee

Excuse me? Got that Cruz authoritarian mindset about you... Now don’t you. Nastiness all around.. Nite


116 posted on 02/12/2016 9:43:17 PM PST by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: Breto; Jim Robinson

Post #105.Maybe you should talk to Jim about that!


117 posted on 02/12/2016 9:43:48 PM PST by nurse-rn
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To: woofie

Your Mad because Trump was smart enough to sell some Stock and make a Profit while your Wife got into what, Herbalife or Amway?

I see you are floating a Conspiracy in your second to last Paragraph. Clinton Cattle Futures and Trump selling some Stock. Mulder and Scully had better get right on that. LOL

BTW - Don’t forget to watch the Season Finale of X Files on Monday.

I’m a Cruz guy with Trump as my second choice, so may the best Man win so we can knock the hell out of the DemoncRats.


118 posted on 02/12/2016 9:45:11 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (Get the CDS and TDS Vaccines before it's too late.)
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To: Just mythoughts

The real nastiness is falsely accusing someone of something they didn’t do. It’s called slander and defamation, I believe. But so far, nothing is beneath Trump when it comes to what he’ll do to ‘win’. And apparently, the same goes for some of his followers. Sad, that.


119 posted on 02/12/2016 9:45:37 PM PST by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie)
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To: XenaLee

Careful now you may not like owing your own accusations!


120 posted on 02/12/2016 9:48:13 PM PST by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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