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Surprise: Trump Falls Behind Cruz in National NBC/WSJ Poll
WSJ/NBC ^ | 2-17-16 | Mark Murray

Posted on 02/17/2016 2:27:13 PM PST by ifinnegan

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To: SaxxonWoods

As a Cruz supporter I would like to thank you for saying that in a clear and correct manner.

Quite civil.


61 posted on 02/17/2016 2:40:09 PM PST by Bidimus1
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To: Raycpa

A primary voter is someone who has an established track record of consistently showing up to vote in a primary election.


62 posted on 02/17/2016 2:41:02 PM PST by RedWhiteBlue (Mama tried)
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To: ifinnegan

Fly-in-the-ointment disclaimer from your article:

“But Cruz’s 2-point edge is within the poll’s margin of error, and it’s not clear if the survey captures real movement in the race or is simply an outlier.”


63 posted on 02/17/2016 2:41:17 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Iowa David

Don’t start the Cruz Control yet:

From article (curious weighting):

Another possible explanation for Trump’s decline in the new NBC/WSJ poll is an increase in “very conservative” Republican voters from January’s sample.

If the current poll is re-weighted to reflect the ideological composition from last month, the GOP horserace numbers are: Trump 26 percent, Cruz 25 percent, Rubio 18 percent and Kasich 13 percent — so Trump is ahead by one point, but still down from January.


64 posted on 02/17/2016 2:41:43 PM PST by Rennes Templar (I'm pro gun control: keep your guns under your control at all times.)
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To: Bidimus1
sorry it was just too obvious not to say.

Yep, he was able to use the bankruptcy laws to save 4 companies rather than have them go down the toilet and lose everything for stakeholders.

What horrors...

As a Realtor, I've worked with many people who were pushed into bankruptcy through no fault of their own. A couple were even pushed there by the banks who were unwilling to work with them.

Business is risky but Cruz wouldn't know much about that as he's sucked off the government teet for most of his life.

65 posted on 02/17/2016 2:42:23 PM PST by The Iceman Cometh (The Democrats Must Lose In November)
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To: Cicero

For the past 88 days, the WSJ editorials have trashed Trump.

Tomorrow it will be 89 days.


66 posted on 02/17/2016 2:42:35 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) since Nov 2014 (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: jennychase

Not sure how they got to their numbers, but the rest of the polls show about what we’ve been seeing for some time.

Also, Trump is still rising in SC polling.

I’m fine with Cruz doing better, let’s get the rest out and have at with these two.


67 posted on 02/17/2016 2:42:44 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (Trump and/or Cruz, it's all good)
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To: Sun

Actually, the more you look into Cruz, particularly his campaign manager Jeff Roe, and his 100+ million in super PAC “donations”, the more you realize he’s just a typical Washington slimeball.

And most (not all) of his cult-like supporters won’t even acknowledge his missteps. They just completely deny reality in their raging fits of TDS.


68 posted on 02/17/2016 2:42:47 PM PST by 20yearsofinternet (Border: Close it. Illegals: Deport. Muslims: Ban 'em. Economy: Liberate it. PC: Kill it. Trump 2016)
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To: gbscott1954

FWIW, nick is anything but a Trump guy


69 posted on 02/17/2016 2:43:11 PM PST by digger48
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To: ifinnegan

70 posted on 02/17/2016 2:43:32 PM PST by jennychase
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To: RedWhiteBlue

So why change the mix from one month to another? Wouldn’t you expect them to be the same?


71 posted on 02/17/2016 2:43:41 PM PST by Raycpa
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To: ifinnegan

72 posted on 02/17/2016 2:44:45 PM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: The Iceman Cometh

Nope. Chap 11 then He LEFT!

Citibank and Saudi Prince kept them open.


73 posted on 02/17/2016 2:44:58 PM PST by Bidimus1
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To: ifinnegan

I’m the biggest Cruz supporter here, and I’ll just say two things.

1) This is clearly an outlier and as far as the state of the race I’m a bit dubious until I see confirmation;

2) What IS EXTREMELY interesting is the head-to-head matchups between Cruz and Trump and Rubio and Trump. That’s the first such poll I’ve seen in quite a while and it shows Trump getting crushed in both matchups.

So what? So...it says when the field gets down to Trump and someone else, Trump is toast. The only question is: will that happen too late?

Hank


74 posted on 02/17/2016 2:45:04 PM PST by County Agent Hank Kimball (Trust Fund Donnie Trump thinks "Nuclear Triad" is a death metal trio.)
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To: Iowa David

Well, if anybody runs against Hillary Clinton...


75 posted on 02/17/2016 2:45:08 PM PST by Bogie (Just a coincidence?)
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To: jennychase

lowest pop and 3 days, NBS/WSJ is outlier/questionable.

But Cruz bot can post this poll 100 times till Sunday.


76 posted on 02/17/2016 2:46:04 PM PST by jennychase
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To: ifinnegan

I don’t believe it.

If this so called poll would have shown Rubio creeping up, I wouldn’t have liked it either, but I might have bought it.

~~Go Trump Go~~ ~~Go Trump Go~~ ~~Go Trump Go~~


77 posted on 02/17/2016 2:46:28 PM PST by Gator113 (~~Go Trump Go~~ Just livin' life my way. Don't worry, everything is gonna be alright.)
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To: ifinnegan

It is an outlier. We shall see as we go forward. There won’t be a national primary, so Cruz will have to start winning some more states to be considered in the lead for the nomination. If you believe this national poll, then you must also place some credence in all the SC polls that show Trump clearly in the lead as well as in NV. Three wins in a row for Trump creates some Trumpmentum.


78 posted on 02/17/2016 2:46:40 PM PST by kabar
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To: ifinnegan

live by polls, die by polls

Trumpfans on facebook know their guy is a vulgar liberal and all they had was polls...


79 posted on 02/17/2016 2:47:23 PM PST by GeronL (I remember when this was a conservative forum)
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To: fooman

I will vote Cruz in November.


80 posted on 02/17/2016 2:47:23 PM PST by GeronL (I remember when this was a conservative forum)
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