Posted on 02/21/2016 10:58:54 AM PST by SeekAndFind
I’ve been saying all along that Trump should sue both Cruz and Rubio on eligibity. I want the questions about the definition of “natural born citizen” resolved. And I want processes in place to keep ineligibles off the ballots.
Nobody should ever be fooled into voting for a Roger Calero again.
I’ve been saying all along that Trump should sue both Cruz and Rubio on eligibity. I want the questions about the definition of “natural born citizen” resolved. And I want processes in place to keep ineligibles off the ballots.
Nobody should ever be fooled into voting for a Roger Calero again.
If the offspring are citizens, they are naturalized and therefore not natural born.
But then, neither one was ever naturalized. Rubio was born in America and thus a citizen by birth. And Cruz, so we are told, got American citizenship through his mother.
I see what you are saying about a presumption that they are not eligible unless eligibility is demonstrated. I was coming at it from a different angle, from the standpoint that nobody is going to stop them from running.
A court action could declare them ineligible but if that happens, will happen long after this primary election season is over.
I think Rubio, an anchor baby born in the U.S. o non citizen parents from Cuba, would be a citizen by statute...Congressional law passed because he was born in America, rather than natural born. Cruz, IMO, is a citizen by statute...Congressional law passed because he had one American parent, but born in a foreign country, also not natural born, two citizens, and born in America. But as we are all saying...let get this before the Supreme Court and get an absolute ruling on what constitutes a natural born citizen. But maybe wait a while until we get new members on the Supreme Court.
RE: I think Rubio, an anchor baby born in the U.S. o non citizen parents from Cuba, would be a citizen by statute...Congressional law passed because he was born in America, rather than natural born.
What about Barack Obama?
I know that this is going to disappoint all who read this comment, but the Constitution provides that Congress shall determine the definition of citizenship. In this role, Congress has modified the conditions by which a person born inside or outside the country to one (1) American citizen is, in fact, a natural born citizen. While it is true that the original understanding was that only the male parent could confer citizenship on his offspring, that definition was changed over a century ago.
I will put on my asbestos underwear now. Flame on.
Do you know why they were defined as 7 tenths human?
I know that this is going to disappoint all who read this comment, but the Constitution provides that Congress shall determine the definition of citizenship”
But the Constitution does NOT give Congress the power to change the Constitution.
Natural born citizenship is a requirement to be president specified in the Constitution. Locked in. Has been brought before the Supreme Court numerous times. That was NEVER its ruling.
Let’s hope Mr. Trump also excludes Marco and Nikki from his VP list. Both would be challenged in court before friendly Democrat judges for sure; something the Republicans were afraid to do in 2008.
Three-fifths of blacks under the Constitution were counted for representation in the U.S. House and per capita taxation. Northerners wanted blacks counted fully for taxation but not for representation; southerners, vice versa. There was nothing in the Constitution about blacks being less than 100 percent human beings.
Why would you say Floridians have wised up to Rubio? Is there evidence of that before March 15.
Okay I get it you are for Trump, I don't like rubita one bit myself but it's your brand of manure that is making FR stink to hell and back right now.
RE: Both would be challenged in court before friendly Democrat judges for sure;
You can always point to Barack Obama and play the race card as the Dems are wont to do.
It appears not limit now a days to who is a Natural Born.
1) Two Citizen parents Born US = Natural Born
2) One Citizen and foreigner
US Born =Natural Born
3) One citizen and a foreigner
born in another Country = Natural Born
4) Two Foreigner parents but
born in the US. = Natural Born
I think that about covers it, for now anyway. Did I miss anything?
Guess the words don’t have a meaning. Wait, they tried but failed to change that meaning a few times, or so has been reported.
Like the Law of 1790, that was changed in 1795. Then again, a simple Law doesn’t change the Constitution. Oh how folks like to confuse.
Then again we have,
Churchill’s Mom Us Born, Foreign Dad, Born in another Country. Best he got was Honorary Citizenship from the US Awarded by J.F. Kennedy. Why Honorary. In this day and time he’s a NBC.
So, if a foreign couple takes a flight out of NY JFK airport on US Airways, crosses over the International date line. Gives birth with the aid of the US crew members, is that child also an NBC?
Lot’s to consider, gotta think about that a bit....
“Two Cuban citizens”
They were, in fact.
“but it’s your brand of manure”
Explain where I have it wrong. Or do you prefer to get your panties in a wad, for some strange reason.
Cheap insults garner you nothing, They are American citizens, but you know that. What is so ridiculous is the level of hate Freepers like you are exhibiting, you might just as well call yourself a democrat. Trump is at his least likelihood of me voting for him when all he does is trash talk and you supporters of his will get no one to vote for him with your juvenile rantings.
Before jumping on the bandwagon remember how everyone on FR has bemoaned the biased interpretation of the 14th amendment by granting citizenship to millions of Mexican (& now Asian) kids born in the USA and speculate on the result of putting one in the White House.
When Rubio starts lying about trump like Cruz does, he’ll get our negative opinions.
RE: Rubio IS an anchor baby, neither parent was a citizen
Would it be OK with you if one of them was?
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