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Why Not Shoot Them? A not-entirely-facetious consideration of the Gitmo conundrum
National Review ^ | 02/24/2016 | Kevin Williamson

Posted on 02/24/2016 7:58:38 AM PST by SeekAndFind

President Barack Obama has renewed his call for closing down the military prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, and has thereby refreshed his conflict with congressional Republicans over the future of the facility, currently home to 91 sundry villains captured abroad during our ongoing national confrontation with the forces of radical Islam.

Gitmo presents the government with a triple bind: For President Obama, Gitmo is a hated symbol of President George W. Bush’s (purported) bellicosity and disregard for civil liberties; never mind that the Nobel Peace Prize laureate currently resident in the White House has discovered a strange, new, and convenient respect for other such Bush-era innovations as drone assassinations (which Obama expanded to include the extrajudicial execution, i.e., murder, of U.S. citizens) and the PATRIOT Act and NSA spying and the rest. All that can stay, in the president’s view, but Gitmo has to go. The second and third parts of the triple bind are 1) the fact that Congress will not cooperate with relocating Gitmo prisoners to the United States and thus invite meddling in military matters by domestic magistrates, and 2) the fact that, understandably enough, no other country is willing to accept these misfits.

But the usual framing of the question -- keep them in Gitmo or send them to some federal Supermax -- presents a false choice that ignores a seldom discussed option for dealing with these prisoners.

I refer, of course, to the relatively straightforward expedient of shooting them.

The prisoners held at Gitmo are, for the most part, what is known under international law as “francs-tireurs," non-uniformed militiamen who conduct sabotage and terrorism operations against occupation forces. Under Article 4 of the Geneva Conventions, fighters eligible for the protections extended to prisoners of war are obliged to meet several criteria, including the wearing of uniforms or fixed insignia and -- here’s the rub for the Islamic State et al. -- conducting their operations in accordance with the laws and customs of war. Non-uniformed militiamen and insurgents sawing the heads off of Wall Street Journal reporters do not qualify for Geneva Convention protections. They are, under the applicable international law, subject to summary execution, as are captured spies, terrorists, and the like.

So: Why not shoot them?

This takes us to a broader moral question about the use of execution per se. While U.S. military policy is not governed by Catholic teaching, it is worth considering Rome’s thinking on the question. If you listened only to U.S. bishops, who have an unfortunate weakness for peddling social-justice nostrums, you'd be tempted to conclude that the Catholic Church is categorically opposed to the practice of capital punishment. In fact, canon law is much more sophisticated than the Nerf-headed progressivism that dominates the American episcopal corpus, and it takes account of such relevant considerations as whether the sparing of an offender's life might put innocents in mortal danger. We already have adjudicated that question: That the prisoners at Gitmo present a mortal danger both to U.S. forces abroad as well as civilians in the United States and around the world is precisely why they remain prisoners at Gitmo. Those who have been judged (often wrongly!) to present no future threat are discharged. Catholic or otherwise, the fact that these men are likely to commit unspeakable outrages of the sort that we have come to expect from the worldwide Islamic-supremacist movement is unavoidably relevant.

So: Why not shoot them?

A main part of President Obama’s indictment of Gitmo is the fact -- and there is no doubt that it is a fact -- that the prison is used in recruitment propaganda by Islamic radicals. Gitmo, like drone strikes, is deeply unpopular among jihadists. There is a reason for that: Drone strikes kill jihadists, and Gitmo keeps them out of the game. Everything the United States does to defend itself against Islamic supremacists is unpopular with Islamic supremacists -- that doesn’t mean that we give them a veto over our national-security policy. No doubt executing the prisoners at Guantanamo Bay would send a shock through the Islamic world. Perhaps such a shock would be not entirely unhealthy.

So: Why not shoot them?

There have been reports of abuse at Gitmo, though of relatively tame stuff compared with, say, your average Thursday night at Rikers Island, where New York City jailers negligently roasted a homeless veteran to death. Parts of the facility are in poor repair, and one food-preparation area -- for our troops, not the prisoners -- was found to present an “above-average risk for food-borne illness” in a 2011 report. Typical government work, in other words. Abuses should be investigated and punished, and necessary maintenance should be undertaken. All of that should -- but does not necessarily -- go without saying. But none of it is an argument against Gitmo -- or, at least, not an argument against Gitmo that doesn’t apply with equal force to Fort Leavenworth, Lompoc, or Terminal Island.

If your complaint is that Gitmo is expensive to operate, consider that bullets are cheap.

So: Why not shoot them?

Both international law and careful moral consideration make room for summarily executing the prisoners at Gitmo. Perhaps you do not find that argument satisfactory. Perhaps something gnaws at your conscience when you consider the prospect of simply lining these men up and shooting them down. You can be confident that no such scruple infests the consciences of these men, who are part of a global undertaking that is positively giddy about the prospect of burning children alive and raping women to death to prove a point.

By way of comparison to what justice might actually bear, the conditions at Gitmo -- three hot halal meals and a Koran -- are indeed a powerful testament to American values, though not the sort of values that Barack Obama imagines. Gitmo may not exactly be the “resort” that its defenders sometimes joke that it is, but we could do worse -- much worse -- with these men and be entirely justified doing it.

If you do not like Gitmo, there are alternatives. But you might not like those, either.

-- Kevin D. Williamson is the roving correspondent at National Review.


TOPICS: Cuba; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: cuba; gitmo; guantanamo; terrorism
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To: arl295

Neah.
Have to defile them BEFORE you shoot them. This is actually a Fatwah on that.


21 posted on 02/24/2016 8:45:53 AM PST by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: All

Works for me.


22 posted on 02/24/2016 8:54:04 AM PST by pke
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To: SeekAndFind

Relatively simple. Turn the Shiites over to the tender mercies of their Sunni brethren in the middle east. Turn the Sunnis over to the Shiites. Or, better yet, turn the whole lot over to what few Yazidis are left. Or maybe the right sort of Kurds. End of problem!


23 posted on 02/24/2016 8:55:51 AM PST by JimRed (Is it 1776 yet? TERM LIMITS, now and forever! Build the Wall, NOW!)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’ve been saying this for a decade.

They’re Illegal Combatants; we would be fully justified under the Laws of Land Warfare in doing this.


24 posted on 02/24/2016 9:04:43 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: jessduntno
Shoot the terrorists! Save the bacon!

I like it!

25 posted on 02/24/2016 9:14:05 AM PST by WhirlwindAttack (I will soon cease to be. I wonder if anyone will even notice.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Its rather simple. If they are not a threat, release them. If they will always be a threat, hang them.

If they want to live and have useful information, then sweat them for what they have and then make the aforementioned calculus.


26 posted on 02/24/2016 9:23:55 AM PST by marron
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To: SeekAndFind

Because hanging would be more appropriate.


27 posted on 02/24/2016 9:41:13 AM PST by Defiant (RINOs are leaders of a party without voters. Trump/Cruz are leaders of voters without a party.)
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To: 17th Miss Regt
They don’t need trials, either.

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There should be a trial to see if they belong to a terrorist group. If found to belong to a terrorist group in any capacity - be it a cook or a driver or whatever then they are guilty of murders committed by their terror organization and the penalty is death by firing squad (I prefer hanging because sometimes a firing squad is seen as an honorable death but hanging is a lost art).

28 posted on 02/24/2016 10:15:50 AM PST by Trumpinator ("Are you Batman?" the boy asked. "I am Batman," Trump said.)
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To: SeekAndFind
So: Why not shoot them?
Puts one in mind of the immortal words of Br’er Bear . . .

29 posted on 02/24/2016 11:11:36 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion ('Liberalism' is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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