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Trump wants to 'open up' libel laws to sue media outlets
The Hill ^ | February 26, 2016 | Bradford Richardson

Posted on 02/26/2016 12:41:29 PM PST by ConservativeTeen

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To: Lazamataz

Aren’t the libel laws on the book now sufficient? What more is needed?


61 posted on 02/26/2016 1:04:08 PM PST by mquinn (Obama's supporters: a deliberate drowning of consciousness by means of rhythmic noise)
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To: TBP

So now Cruz supporters are backing the MSM.

Free speech does not include lying.


62 posted on 02/26/2016 1:04:31 PM PST by CottonBall
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To: The Iceman Cometh
My thoughts precisely.
63 posted on 02/26/2016 1:04:36 PM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: ConservativeTeen

Not controversial political speech, lies on a national level.

The legal recourse to people telling outright lies is to sue them. Why should the media be exempt?


64 posted on 02/26/2016 1:04:49 PM PST by Kenny (RED)
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To: gdani
Who do you know won a case against the NYT, LATimes, WP, etc.?
65 posted on 02/26/2016 1:05:16 PM PST by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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To: mquinn

Just watch, if libel laws are changed, liberals will go hard after Rush, Mark Levin, and all other conservative media outlets.


66 posted on 02/26/2016 1:05:39 PM PST by ConservativeTeen (Really a Conservative 30-something)
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To: ConservativeTeen

It’s saber rattling I figure


67 posted on 02/26/2016 1:05:49 PM PST by wardaddy (its over ..... Trump won....nothing wrong with Cruz either)
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To: ConservativeWarrior

Libel is already agasint the law. Guess they did not that at Trump Univ.

But Negative statements are not only legal the are enshrined by the founding fathers. In the Deceleration of Independence

How many of these statements below would be “trumpian libel”

He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.

He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.

He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.

He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.

He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the Legislative powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.

He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.

He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary powers.
He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.

He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.

He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.

He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power.

He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:
For Quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:
For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:
For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:
For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:
For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:
For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences
For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies:
For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:
For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.
He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.

He has plundered our seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.

He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.

He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.
He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.


68 posted on 02/26/2016 1:06:15 PM PST by Bidimus1
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To: Smokin' Joe

I’m not looking for an argument smokin’, but look what we have now. Do we have healthy descent? I don’t think so!

What we have now are communist activists (imo) who eagerly lie, cheat, and steal to get their way.

I don’t pretend to know how we rectify the situation. But the press as it is now is aiding and abetting the destruction of our culture the way I see it.


69 posted on 02/26/2016 1:06:27 PM PST by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: McGruff

The danger here is that this power would be in the hands of a future Democratic president, or Democrat-controlled Congress. Do you want o give them the power to to more easily go after conservative media outlets? I don’t.


70 posted on 02/26/2016 1:06:43 PM PST by mquinn (Obama's supporters: a deliberate drowning of consciousness by means of rhythmic noise)
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To: ConservativeTeen
Just watch, if libel laws are changed, liberals will go hard after Rush, Mark Levin, and all other conservative media outlets.

Why, did those people tell blatant lies?

71 posted on 02/26/2016 1:06:52 PM PST by Kenny (RED)
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To: CottonBall
Free speech does not include lying.

Actually, in most cases, it does. SCOTUS has said so time & time again. The most recent time was striking down the Stolen Valor Act.

72 posted on 02/26/2016 1:07:15 PM PST by gdani ("Nobody reads the Bible more than me" - Donald Trump <<<<BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!)
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To: ConservativeTeen

Just wait until this Jackasp oversees the DOJ and the IRS.

He’ll make Barky’s abuses look like child’s play.

Oh but he is gonna build a great wall. /s


73 posted on 02/26/2016 1:07:26 PM PST by VRWCarea51 (The original 1998 version)
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To: ConservativeTeen

Free Speech does not protect libel/slander.


74 posted on 02/26/2016 1:07:40 PM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: CottonBall

Feel free to site any libel or slander that has been committed.

Of course calling some one a liar and then not being able to prove it .. is slander but I doubt the djt folks will think so.


75 posted on 02/26/2016 1:08:24 PM PST by Bidimus1
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To: ConservativeTeen

Controversial yes, but deliberate lies, no. Once again, Trump challenges bullies—and how else do you describe major media outlets that are oblivious to the demands of ethical reporting?


76 posted on 02/26/2016 1:08:25 PM PST by Ohioan
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To: ConservativeWarrior
Got it.

You don't got it. Political speech and press freedom are protected in the Constitution. The fact that your man doesn't like them isn't material.

77 posted on 02/26/2016 1:09:06 PM PST by Poison Pill
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To: The Iceman Cometh

Did you notice how many people Il Donduche shook hands with.. ?

or that in a snit he refused to talk to Salem communications.


78 posted on 02/26/2016 1:09:43 PM PST by Bidimus1
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To: dinoparty

Doesn’t take much to get the cruzers’ panties in a bunch these days!!

My condolences on the defeat of your also-ran.

TRUMP 2016 Baby!!!


79 posted on 02/26/2016 1:10:03 PM PST by ConservativeWarrior (Fall down 7 times, stand up 8. - Japanese proverb)
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To: Chgogal
Who do you know won a case against the NYT, LATimes, WP, etc.?

Do you realize libel laws apply to more than just the media?

80 posted on 02/26/2016 1:10:07 PM PST by gdani ("Nobody reads the Bible more than me" - Donald Trump <<<<BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!)
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