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So far, Trump wins open primaries and Cruz wins closed … (Title Shortened)
The Washington Post ^ | 03-02-16 | By Todd Zywicki

Posted on 03/02/2016 6:51:24 AM PST by rwilson99

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To: American in Israel

“Immigration control for Trump is called hiring illegal immigrant construction workers to do jobs Americans don’t want to do, like carpentry and electrical at minimum wage.”

A prime example of how the left works. A 36 year old story about a subcontractor hiring unskilled “undocumented Polish immigrants” to demolish a building, is presented as a recent story with Trump hiring skilled “illegal immigrant “ slave labor, displacing American workers.

No wonder folks are tuning out.


201 posted on 03/02/2016 9:54:55 AM PST by moehoward
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To: CodeToad
Sorry, ain’t buying your bull...t argument, troll.

"Please enjoy our forum, but also please remember to use common courtesy when posting and refrain from posting personal attacks, profanity, vulgarity, threats, racial or religious bigotry, or any other materials offensive or otherwise inappropriate for a conservative family audience."

Let the record show that CodeToad, a Trumpster, violated the norms of civility.

I still hold that everyone should vote their conscience CoadToad.

202 posted on 03/02/2016 9:59:57 AM PST by Theophilus (Ignore Trump, Fear Almighty God)
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To: Right Brother
Come Novemmber, the entire nation has an ‘open’ primary.

Come September and October the media will go into full trash Trump mode.

Most of the Dems who crossed over in the open primaries will head back home to Hillary.

Meanwhile enough conservatives will sit out.

203 posted on 03/02/2016 10:01:48 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: patlin
you hold him up as a pinnacle of righteousness?

No, as a pinnacle of conscience. It's apparent that our differences go waaaaayyyy back.

How about Sir Thomas Moore? Is he any more appealing to you than St. Martin Luther? Vote your conscience!

204 posted on 03/02/2016 10:04:50 AM PST by Theophilus (Ignore Trump, Fear Almighty God)
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To: scooby321

Cruz leads in California.


205 posted on 03/02/2016 10:13:33 AM PST by rwilson99 (Please tell me how the words "shall not perish and have everlasting life" would NOT apply to Mary.)
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To: MNJohnnie

Trump hires H1-B workers at his resorts throughout the country, not to mention paid a $1 million dollar fine for hiring illegals.

You’re a sucker if you think he won’t defend his interests going forward, he’s not going to cost his family millions of dollars to change the law.


206 posted on 03/02/2016 10:17:34 AM PST by rwilson99 (Please tell me how the words "shall not perish and have everlasting life" would NOT apply to Mary.)
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To: Theophilus
Well, after a scrupulous study of both the new & old testaments, my conscience told me to run away from everything Luther(I being a former Lutheran) and get back to the actual teachings of Jesus, which said, do not set a person who is not a natural born son of a citizen as the head of our nation. Therefore, in good conscience, I cannot vote for a natural born Canadian as my president. After all, we do have to answer to Christ as to not only how we obeyed the laws of God, but also the laws of the land where God placed us.

Cruz may be a ‘citizen, however, he is not a natural born citizen and his record as a US Senator prove his agenda is not in the best interests of America.

http://www.goodfellowllc.com/free-stock-market-content/tpp-living-blog

16. FAST TRACK SHENANIGANS: REP. PAUL RYAN AND SEN. TED CRUZ

Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI) and Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) were instrumental in the passage of TPA. While there were many of the usual suspects going along with the President’s Fast Track plan, including most key Democrats in Congress, and former House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH), the Fast Track bill could not have passed without Rep. Ryan’s and Sen. Cruz’s support and encouragement.

Rep. Ryan was the lead Congressman in promoting TPA. Sen. Cruz provided lots of support, and co-penned an editorial with Rep. Ryan in April 2015, encouraging Congress to pass the TPA bill.
Putting Congress in Charge on Trade — The Wall Street Journal, April 21, 2015

On June 23rd, mere hours before the Senate Fast Track vote, Sen. Cruz announced his opposition to the Fast Track bill, on the premise that Sen. Mitch McConnell had lied to him.
Ted Cruz: Obamatrade Enmeshed in Corrupt, Backroom Dealings — Breitbart, 06-23-15

I am appalled that anybody would believe that Sen. Cruz did not know what was in the TPP, that he did not somehow understand that TPA gives the President carte blanche on his anti-American agenda, and that Sen. Cruz was “lied to” by Senator McConnell.

Senator Ted Cruz is a brilliant man. There is absolutely no way that he was naive about TPA, TPP, the President’s agenda, or any of the motives of the other key players on this issue. It is my belief that Sen. Cruz realized that pressure was mounting from voters, against the TPP, and that he would not be elected President if he supported the TPP. So he had to make a quick turnaround on his stance on Fast Track — a turnaround which carefully took place far too late to kill the Fast Track vote.

Normally, I’m a forgiving person, but I draw the line with Sen. Cruz. To reiterate:

1. Sen. Cruz co-authored a pro-Fast Track op-ed with Rep. Paul Ryan, in April 2015.

2. In May 2015, “Cruz voted against an amendment to the Trade Deal that would require congress to be consulted if China (or other nations) were to join after the fact.” — The Conservative Treehouse, 11-30-15

Senate Amendment 1251 “To require the approval of Congress before additional countries may join the Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement”…

3. Sen. Cruz had the power to kill the Fast Track bill, by influencing colleagues — including any of the 36 Congresspeople from Texas — in the months leading up to the Fast Track vote. Instead, he waited until the last possible moment to announce his opposition to Fast Track. The bill only passed the House by one vote. To me, his last minute “change of heart” over Fast Track seemed like a politically expedient decision, made in light of the Tea Party’s growing outrage over TPA & TPP.

4. In the spring of 2015, I contacted four of Cruz’ Senate and campaign offices, to talk to key people about why he should be voting “no” on Fast Track. None of them returned my calls. After nine visits to Washington D.C. in 2015, to fight Fast Track, I found it highly unusual not to be able to speak with a Senator’s staffers. My takeaway was that his people were told to stonewall the Fast Track opponents.

5. Sen. Cruz and his supporters have portrayed his original pro-Fast Track position as naivete; and that he was fooled by his colleagues. I say baloney! Sen. Cruz is one of the smartest, most knowledgeable elected officials in D.C.

There’s absolutely no way that Sen. Cruz did not understand that Fast Track (a) freely gives a significantly increased amount of power to President Obama and the pro-TPP contingent, and (b) that the TPP gives away U.S. sovereignty.

6. Sen. Cruz did not take an anti-TPP stance until the Nov. 10th Presidential debate, once it became clear that almost every serious contender in the debate had also spoken out against the TPP. Why did it take him so long to speak out against the TPP?

7. Club for Growth, a pro-trade organization, was Cruz’ biggest campaign contributor in the years 2011-2014, donating $705,657 — more than twice the amount of the next biggest contributor. This alarms me. Why would Club for Growth bet so heavily on a candidate who opposes the TPP? (Source: OpenSecrets.org)

8. Sen. Cruz’ wife, Heidi Cruz, a managing director at Goldman Sachs, has lots of career experience with pro-trade factions.
Mrs. Cruz was a special (temporary) member on the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR); and on the CFR’s task force for the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA), for which she completed a task force report on Building a North American Global Community. Mrs. Cruz’ co-author on that report was Robert A. Pastor, who has been called “the father of the North American Union”.

Mrs. Cruz was special assistant to Robert B. Zoellick, whose resume reads like an encyclopedia of the New World Order.
Mrs. Cruz worked as special assistant to Ambassador Robert B. Zoellick, former U.S. Trade Representative, and former President of the World Bank. Mr. Zoellick has unparalleled experience in ushering trade agreements into existence, including the Central American Free Trade Agreement (CAFTA), and others with Vietnam and with Jordan. He was also instrumental in the last implementation of Fast Track Trade Promotion Authority in 2002. His resume reads like an encyclopedia of New World Order organizations, including stints on the Trilateral Commission, the Council on Foreign Relations, the Project for the New American Century, the World Trade Organization; and he is a proponent of Climate Change issues.
Ponder this analogy: a person who’s anti-abortion would never take a job as special assistant to the Director of Planned Parenthood. I know that everybody wants to pooh-pooh Mrs. Cruz’ intimate involvement in the globalist agenda, but she lived and breathed that agenda in her career! She was not an oblivious clerical worker with a 100 I.Q. She was fully involved in planning and promoting global governance. Then she went home at night and talked about it with her husband. How does a staunch Constitutionalist marry a staunch globalist? The answer is, he doesn’t. He marries somebody who’s relatively like-minded. When you meet your future spouse at work, and you work together for many years, you are usually aligned in your political stance.

I am left to believe that Sen. Cruz fully supports the TPP, and what we witnessed was his political maneuvering, as he hid his position so as to solidify his chance to become the next President of the United States.

207 posted on 03/02/2016 10:19:05 AM PST by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is - 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: BillyBoy

How many H1-B visa holders does Trump currently employ?

That will tell you everything you need to know about how he intends to govern in regards to immigration.


208 posted on 03/02/2016 10:19:28 AM PST by rwilson99 (Please tell me how the words "shall not perish and have everlasting life" would NOT apply to Mary.)
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To: rwilson99
Trump hires H1-B workers at his resorts throughout the country, not to mention paid a $1 million dollar fine for hiring illegals.

H-1B visas are for importing workers in technology, STEM and other professions and not dishwashers! LOL. It think the visas were L-1 which are temporary manual labor worker visas.

209 posted on 03/02/2016 10:20:16 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: patlin
Therefore, in good conscience, I cannot vote for a natural born Canadian as my president.

I respect your conscience.

210 posted on 03/02/2016 10:37:17 AM PST by Theophilus (Ignore Trump, Fear Almighty God)
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To: wiseprince

And yet, it’s not Cruz that has an unfavorability rating of 60% (or more). That would be Trump.

http://www.gallup.com/opinion/polling-matters/188936/trump-negative-image.aspx


211 posted on 03/02/2016 10:40:36 AM PST by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie)
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To: mrsmel

I don’t understand this sentiment. The GOP, right now, is the Democrat mini-me. You said “Or don’t conservative principles matter anymore?” and I say the GOP hasn’t been conservative in many, many years. At least not in any way that matters.


212 posted on 03/02/2016 11:06:28 AM PST by Jay Thomas (If not for my faith in Christ, I would despair.)
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To: central_va

Ok... Revise the question.

How many foreign workers does Trump employ at his resorts across the country? Will he change the law to help Americans like hundreds who applied at his resorts get those jobs?

Will a man who once had to pay a $1 million fine for hiring illegal aliens really going to enforce immigration law?

If you believe those things you must have a four year degree from Trump University.


213 posted on 03/02/2016 11:11:17 AM PST by rwilson99 (Please tell me how the words "shall not perish and have everlasting life" would NOT apply to Mary.)
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To: rwilson99

I thought H1-B were tech jobs.

“The US H1B visa is a non-immigrant visa that allows US companies to employ foreign workers in specialty occupations that require theoretical or technical expertise in specialized fields such as in architecture, engineering, mathematics, science, and medicine.”

Link: http://www.workpermit.com/us/us_h1b.htm


214 posted on 03/02/2016 12:48:25 PM PST by Jay Thomas (If not for my faith in Christ, I would despair.)
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To: rwilson99

Just to be clear.

I thought H1-B were tech jobs.

“The US H1B visa is a non-immigrant visa that allows US companies to employ foreign workers in specialty occupations that require theoretical or technical expertise in specialized fields such as in architecture, engineering, mathematics, science, and medicine.”

Link: http://www.workpermit.com/us/us_h1b.htm


215 posted on 03/02/2016 12:49:51 PM PST by Jay Thomas (If not for my faith in Christ, I would despair.)
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To: Theophilus

“Let the record show that CodeToad, a Trumpster, violated the norms of civility.”

Not only that but he called you, who have been a FReeper since 1998, a troll.

The trolls I see on here now are the really active trumpsters who all joined in August of 15 for some reason - maybe they are all the same person with different accounts?


216 posted on 03/02/2016 12:58:51 PM PST by Let's Roll (So much left-wing thought is playing with fire by those who don't even know fire is hot - Orwell)
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To: rwilson99

Washington Post.... nuf said.

How many times does Trump have to disprove the “Trump can’t win” attacks before folks will accept, not only can he win, he is winning?


217 posted on 03/02/2016 1:09:24 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: wiseprince

Cruz in the general is simply, he wins the already red states by a pretty good margin, loses the traditional blue ones and it boils down to a GOTV effort in a handful of states for the win... and which side wins? Who knows, and it doesn’t really matter much... we remain in gridlock and the idiotic approach to elections Karl Rove brought to the fore continues on for another 4 years, leaving the capital deadlocked and the people and the nation out of consideration as the money men continue to line their pockets and screw the rest of us over.


218 posted on 03/02/2016 1:12:35 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: FreeReign
Meanwhile enough conservatives will sit out.

No conservative should ever sit an election out and I mean that whether Cruz or Trump wins. It's also just as true that no conservative should violate conscience when voting but should vote 3rd party or write in if necessary. I think voting is a costly blessing of liberty secured at great price, a sacred right and a civic duty.

Whether you vote or not is a public record and it might be a VIOLATION /s

219 posted on 03/02/2016 1:44:57 PM PST by Theophilus (Ignore Trump, Fear Almighty God)
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To: HamiltonJay

The fact is Trump is 1-3 in elections that are closed to Republicans.

It doesn’t matter who shares the fact when it’s a fact.

He should run as a Democrat... he has needed their votes for nearly each of his wins.


220 posted on 03/02/2016 2:26:54 PM PST by rwilson99 (The choices are Cruz (R) - Constitution or Trump (D) - Planned Parenthood. Choose wisely.)
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