Posted on 03/04/2016 7:15:34 AM PST by SeekAndFind
Where is the link to that...sounds good to me.
And a beneficiary of said prefrential treatment.
Rube.
Trumpster.
That sounds good to me. The H1B plan is being abused. Read “Sold Out”.
I actually thought Trump looked a little tired last night. He’s no spring chicken (about my age)and he is doing very well with all of these interviews, debates, travel and BS. Then he has that speed talking Rubio picking a fight at every opportunity.
How did I get preferential treatment? I have never gotten a dollar of welfare aid nor have my parents. And when I went to college I was a naturalized citizen to boot (at age 18). So you have nothing. Like I said - I want no caucusing with the likes of you.
1940S AND 1970 are not 2016. Today we are in the drivers seat but are giving it away. We have millions of young American born kids spending 22 of their first years on this planet in the training pipeline to be then rewarded with a job a Starbucks.
I am confident Trump will make any exceptions necessary to safeguard our security....but right now this visa program is being used for political purpose.....anyway........ Thanks for the reply.
What policy was he referring to when he said "I’m changing it, and I’m softening the position"?
What policy was he referring to when he said "I’m changing it, and I’m softening the position"?
I believe increased prevailing wage for highly skilled is changed to prevailing market wage. His previous position paper on it has increased wages for H1Bs making it so employers are not able to pay cheap wages.
Here’s his original position paper on immigration:
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/immigration-reform
and relevant words:
“The influx of foreign workers holds down salaries, keeps unemployment high, and makes it difficult for poor and working class Americans – including immigrants themselves and their children – to earn a middle class wage. Nearly half of all immigrants and their US-born children currently live in or near poverty, including more than 60 percent of Hispanic immigrants. Every year, we voluntarily admit another 2 million new immigrants, guest workers, refugees, and dependents, growing our existing all-time historic record population of 42 million immigrants. We need to control the admission of new low-earning workers in order to: help wages grow, get teenagers back to work, aid minorities’ rise into the middle class, help schools and communities falling behind, and to ensure our immigrant members of the national family become part of the American dream.”
And a little further down in his position paper he states:
“Raising the prevailing wage paid to H-1Bs will force companies to give these coveted entry-level jobs to the existing domestic pool of unemployed native and immigrant workers in the U.S., instead of flying in cheaper workers from overseas. This will improve the number of black, Hispanic and female workers in Silicon Valley who have been passed over in favor of the H-1B program.”
Here are his recent web site words on Visas:
- MARCH 03, 2016 -
DONALD J. TRUMP POSITION ON VISAS
“Megyn Kelly asked about highly-skilled immigration. The H-1B program is neither high-skilled nor immigration: these are temporary foreign workers, imported from abroad, for the explicit purpose of substituting for American workers at lower pay. I remain totally committed to eliminating rampant, widespread H-1B abuse and ending outrageous practices such as those that occurred at Disney in Florida when Americans were forced to train their foreign replacements. I will end forever the use of the H-1B as a cheap labor program, and institute an absolute requirement to hire American workers first for every visa and immigration program. No exceptions.”
The change then as I see it is a specific special exceptions provision for exceptional scientists, chemists, and engineers. These would be the Einsteins, the Von Brauns, the Teslas etc. As I see it the CLE would not be able to find enough of these (geniuses make up less than 0.03% of working population) to create the grand abuse they’ve been creating.
I see Trump’s statement as reaching out to the US scientific establishment. They are very influential and they are right to demand means for recruiting the world’s top talent.
When Trump proposes his immigration reform to Congress, I would like to see his top talent provisions written as to require recommendations from the National Science Academy, a government science and engineering office (NASA, NOAA, NIH, etc.), from accredited tenured professors and scientific principal investigators and so on. I want to see the recommendation and endorsement criteria to be highly stringent so that the CLE can’t find any loopholes.
I can’t see Trump as needing anything from the CLE. I believe his plan is to create a windfall of taxes for US corporations (15% corp tax rate) coupled with mandatory requirements to hire American workers first so that a jobs boom is created. This ends the abuses by the CLE.
And here’s another view on it. When there is a jobs bonanza in the US, people forget about HIB abuses. Such abuses become relatively forgotten during a jobs boom. Trump is intent on creating jobs, real living wage jobs for Americans but he is also intent on investigating anyone coming to the US legally to ensure they are not a harm to the society. So if the foreign worker requirements are ever relaxed in the future, the vetting process will still be very stringent.
The other problem with lax requirements on foreigners is their tendency to cluster and change the traditional culture. Muslims, people from India and some Hispanics tend to cluster and are slow to assimilate if they ever do. Demands on American society to accommodate their language and culture leads to a loss of American identity. The result is prolonged conflict. Trump’s moratorium on Muslims and his increase of H1B wages guards against long-term cultural chaos.
Trump’s proposals are very good but I don’t see how they may be lasting. I believe he will be successful but it would be better for some sharp policy makers and legislators to codify the law so that it would be enduring. Same with his tax proposals, they will be very good for awhile but will degenerate back into a mess once Trump is long gone.
I already voted for Trump here in Texas, and I am/was a strong Trump supporter. However, this H1B visa issue and Trump’s statements last night have really given me pause. I know he clarified those remarks this morning, but I think he needs to publicly recognize, in a firm way, that this country has highly skilled tech workers, and that H visas should not be used at all unless there is an absolute necessity.
Lots of fresh college grads who are US citizens are struggling to find jobs. I am not concerned about foreigners who decide to study in this country and their job search. They should go home at the end of university.
What policy was he referring to when he said "I’m changing it, and I’m softening the position"?
The change then as I see it is a specific special exceptions provision for exceptional scientists, chemists, and engineers.
Nothing in his original position paper addresses them much less rules out bringing them in - so how is that a change?
I think he meant that he was softening on H-1Bs, and is now walking that back with double-talk.
He engaged in double-talk this morning. What policy was he referring to when he said "I’m changing it, and I’m softening the position"?
I've done engineering projects all over the world. What you believe is not true. There are brilliant people all over the world. I'd rather have them here hoping to become Americans.
We have millions of young American born kids spending 22 of their first years on this planet in the training pipeline to be then rewarded with a job a Starbucks.
Some of us actually work on such problems, but you won't read about it in the MSM. .
That makes sense, thanks for explaining. I’m back with Trump after listening to George Will yesterday. Trump has all the right enemies. However, Trump did say he was softening his position. I don’t know what he meant by that, but we do not need any more foreigners in this country, and it doesn’t matter why they are coming. Just say no.
Your example of Mr. Ling is perfect. But I ask, do we need more Chinese in our universities? I say, end the student Visas for at least 10 years. I know schools make a lot of money off them, but as an American, I say, no thank you. Let’s fill those positions with Americans.
And, all the Suckerburgs saying we need more foreigners just want to push down wages. You will always be able to find someone on the other side of the world who is more than happy to come here to work for less than an American.
There are about 3.5 billion people of prime working age in the world. Genetically less than 0.03% (about 1 million) are geniuses. America has a very good share of these and each generation America continues to get a good share. Most such people are very timid and humble. They are a special breed.
However, we don’t want them working for Iran, Pakistan, North Korea or even China. We want them here and we have the infrastructure for it. When it comes to the market for brains, we want to corner the market. We want to pamper them and make them think America is the best place on Earth to live out their lives.
The Cheap Labor Express has abused the process so much that our politics has soured on the subject and has mixed the good in with the bad. Most people now think as you, no more foreigners, at least not for a long time. I have to admit, they have a point.
Very interesting. I had not thought about it that way. I’m still not interested in importing geniuses from Asia.
IMO, our schools have abandoned academics for social engineering. Our colleges, corporations, governments, and elites don’t care because they can make up for the loss of excellent engineers, etc., by importing them, or outsourcing the work. If we stop both practices, the free market will up the rewards for excellence. Right now, as an American, if you work hard, get a great degree from Penn State, and want to help develop new technology, you get to compete will millions of foreigners who are willing to do the job for less than you. It sucks. In fact, if the company can get away with it, they will hire a foreigner over an American because they are more easily controlled. I hope Trump gets this.
Talking about different breeds here. You haven’t seen true genius obviously. It’s genetic. Most of them are very humble and quiet, they are not advertised and in fact are kept mostly out of sight.
Such geniuses we don’t train. They train themselves. They think and ask for materials or support, we give it to them. Doesn’t matter if they are from Budapest or from the Catskills.
An example: Microsoft has about 400 of the world’s top minds, cherry picked from all over the globe including here at home. They think something and they do it. Microsoft tells them budget is no problem, whatever they need.
Same with Caltech and MIT, and government labs and facilities. Groups of incredible minds sit in spaces and think. They pull things off the shelf and tinker. They build their own prototypes like kids playing with legos.
These people are not out competing with you or anyone. They are special. You haven’t seen them. Why should they be advertised?
Einstein, Von Braun, Tesla, Lin, Goedel, Fermi and many American born with so many others all brought together and given the support to think big.
If there are tens of thousands of them out there domestically and internationally, why shouldn’t we set them up? Our politics get in the way so Donald assures academia and the scientific establishment that he is not going to upset that part of our infrastructure (he will soften meaning he will negotiate, if it’s good for America). His aim os to kill the Cheap Labor Express and create jobs for Americans first. The special ones will be taken care of just as they have been for decades and decades.
It’s difficult for you and others to get your mind around something that you don’t see. Here’s a mild but public example:
http://www.mit.edu/~alexrem/Math%20Competitions.html
We won’t be telling Remorov and others like him that they will be going home, deported. We won’t be telling them any such thing. We’re not going to let the poison of the Cheap Labor Express cut off our nose to spite our face; not going to happen.
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