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To: agere_contra

Bundy didn’t pick a fight with the Fed: he insisted on his God-given property rights

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That’s part of Bundy’s problem. He only owns about 160 acres of land in fee and the
rest he’s using is owned by the federal gov’t. He hasn’t paid grazing fees since 1993.


13 posted on 03/11/2016 6:04:38 AM PST by deport
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To: deport
the rest he’s using is owned by the federal gov’t

It's the scope and ownership of the grazing rights that is in dispute. Without sufficient grazing rights Bundy has no ranch and no livelihood.

In 1993 the Feds started an undeclared war on grazing rights - and therefore on ranchers - in the Gold Butte area.

The Desert Tortoise was given protected status, and cattle were denied grazing on 'tortoise-critical' land - despite the fact that the Desert Tortoise thrives in grazing areas due to the presence of moist cowpats. Seriously.

In 1998 Clark County - not the BLM - brought up all extant grazing rights in Gold Butte, to retire them in favor of the Tortoise. They didn't buy Bundy's, because his rights were in dispute as far back as 1994.

In 1993 the BLM sharply cut Bundy's grazing rights to starvation levels. Bundy disputes the right of the BLM to do this: he maintains that the change to the meager 150 head allotment asserted by the BLM is beyond their authority.

He maintains that in the 70's the rights were changed to 'ephemeral range classification' which means that cattle numbers could be matched with the amount of forage available. It seems that Bundy ran as many as 1,400 head of cattle back then.

Bundy also claims that his preemptive water rights are based on livestock beneficial use.

So ... it's a tangle. Since 1993 Bundy has been attempting to pay his grazing fees to Clark County, not to the BLM. As Clark County - not the BLM - brought the other grazing rights, it may be that Clark County are the only government agency that can legally own the grazing rights. If so then this means Bundy has a case in law.


But don't concentrate on the law. Concentrate on the federal overreach. Whatever the decisions of the Nevada courts: it's clear that the BLM have been deliberately running off ranchers in Gold Butte for 23 years. The land is being put aside as an offset for a solar farm in the vicinity, or some damn thing.

FReepers: if it turns out that Bundy doesn't have a case - don't shrug your shoulders. Don't salve your conscience based on some jot or tittle of a printed statute. Bundy is in the right: the BLM are indeed abusing wildlife protection laws to drive him off his land.

Remember that the American revolution was illegal in every single way, except that it was right.

15 posted on 03/11/2016 7:05:31 AM PST by agere_contra (Hamas has dug miles of tunnels - but no bomb-shelters.)
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To: deport

You should acquaint yourself with Nevada grazing laws.

Bundy OWNS the grazing rights - why should he pay “grazing fees”. Grazing rights are similar to mineral rights.

What you call “grazing fees” are designated as “management fees” in the BLM enabling legislation. For which the BLM is supposed to maintain or improve grazing. They were not doing their job. Which of us would pay for services not received.

BTW - Oregon has the same grazing laws. The ranchers OWNED the forage that was burned. The “property” the feds claimed was destroyed by fire actually was owned by the ranchers NOT the government.


16 posted on 03/11/2016 7:23:09 AM PST by GilesB
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