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Will the Dems let Cruz, born in Canada to a Cuban father, be Hillary's opponent?
self | 3/11/2016 | chrisnj

Posted on 03/11/2016 4:42:18 AM PST by chrisnj

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To: chrisnj
Will the Dems let Cruz, born in Canada to a Cuban father, be Hillary's opponent?

Why should they?

The real question is; Why the hell didn't the alleged "opposition party" do the same for the ineligible, unvetted enemy agent currently soiling the White House?

The US and world would have seen none of this economic malaise and terrorism, with virtually any other normal American patriot serving as President.

41 posted on 03/11/2016 5:48:46 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Ohhh....Derka derka derka!)
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To: ScottinVA

And as for “legitimate polls” showing Cruz being crushed... feel free to include a link. I’d like to see them... if they indeed exist.


We just had a poll in VA. Cruz came in 3rd. Apparently you missed it. We’re going to have more pols in OH & FL on Tuesday. Cruz is going to come in 3rd again. Cruz is non competitive with Dems in blue & swing states and has no path to 270 EV. Everybody but Cruz’s true believers can see it.


42 posted on 03/11/2016 5:49:32 AM PST by lodi90 (Clear choice for Conservatives now: TRUMP or lose)
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To: lodi90

I’m not concerned with a primary that occurred weeks ago in which Trump again underperformed expectations.

Again.. I challenge you to show me data samples that show Cruz getting “crushed.” I’ve already reference the RCP data.


43 posted on 03/11/2016 5:52:33 AM PST by ScottinVA (Breathe, Donald.... Breathe.)
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To: BlatherNaut
And it's not only constitutional conservatives or those who were educated when civics was regularly taught in school for whom his Canadian birth is a problem. I've also encountered twenty-something, low-info voters (independents, republicans) who reject the idea of electing a president born in Canada.

Knowledge of the original meaning of NBC which was learned by those old enough to have had civics is spreading.

44 posted on 03/11/2016 5:55:24 AM PST by ASA Vet (Jus Soli + Jus Sanguinis = NBC)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

‘Cruz is eligible for lack of Constitutional fortitude of the citizens.’

Exactly! We will be giving the RATS the best gift ever, if Cruz is the nominee.

The RATS’s double standard will be at play when it comes to our nominee!
Obama is eligible by the RATS’ standard,
but Cruz is NOT eligible by the RATS’ standard!


45 posted on 03/11/2016 5:56:52 AM PST by chrisnj
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To: austinaero
Obama is sending them on that course with his joke about a guy born in Calgary running for POTUS.

Don't kid yourself. You cannot 'unring' a bell.

46 posted on 03/11/2016 5:57:52 AM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel
We’ve lowered the standard...Cruz is eligible for lack of Constitutional fortitude of the citizens.

They're is no 'we' here. The ones of us who have been objecting have been consistently ridiculed and vilified, so don't go trying to legitimatize Cruz by default.

Some FReepers insist on believing government has the ability to decide an eligibility question that is based on Natural rights, but you can't negate original Constitutional intent by ignoring it.

47 posted on 03/11/2016 6:00:22 AM PST by MamaTexan (I am a person as created by the Law of Nature, not a person as created by the laws of Man.)
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To: ScottinVA

Pathetic and sad....

I have a job and it’s responsibilities do not include providing links to polls and articles for your convenience.....Not that it would matter since you obviously couldn’t either comprehend nor properly analyze the data....

Have a nice life.....


48 posted on 03/11/2016 6:00:36 AM PST by nevergore
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To: chrisnj

Cruz has won in all places where his birth has been in question. End of story just like with obummer!


49 posted on 03/11/2016 6:04:52 AM PST by Harpotoo
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To: ScottinVA

Yes because they think it will be Prez Trump but Dem congress because of that.


50 posted on 03/11/2016 6:05:36 AM PST by Harpotoo
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To: nevergore

Ah... the “I’m too busy” response. Feel free to attempt to prove your point in some future time... because you’re unable to do so at present.

And you have a great life, too.


51 posted on 03/11/2016 6:07:58 AM PST by ScottinVA (Breathe, Donald.... Breathe.)
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To: chrisnj

“We would be no better than the RATS!”

I agree. That’s why it’s unsettling to me. BUT!, I see the precedent already set, the rules changed by the very existence of one President Obama, in a second term even. So far, playing ball fairly against the left has only led to victories for the left. The referees (the MSM and the courts) are in on it.


52 posted on 03/11/2016 6:13:22 AM PST by Blue Collar Christian (Ready for Teddy, Cruz that is.)
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To: mazda77

Doesn’t this fall under the same category as when DT said the military would follow his orders?

The military and all others who still uphold the constitution do not have to follow unlawful orders and there would indeed be a coup. They are already prepared for that battle. BOTH sides and millions of civilians/vets.


53 posted on 03/11/2016 6:18:37 AM PST by huldah1776 ( Vote Pro-life! Allow God to bless America before He avenges the death of the innocent.)
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To: ScottinVA

Ah....the “I’m too lazy to look up the info myself, so let’s have others spoon feed me” response....

Did you ever consider changing your vote from Cruz to Bernie since you seem to share similar values?

You want others to do your work so you can directly benefit...Feel the Bern.....


54 posted on 03/11/2016 6:19:38 AM PST by nevergore
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To: MamaTexan; Jim Robinson

Don’t get me wrong.

When Cruz filed, I was one of a few FReepers who argued against his eligibility. Many on this forum, including Jim Robinson, argued in his favor. Ultimately, I acquiesced to Cruz’s eligibility simply because the electorate, in their zeal to elect a mulatto with a Muslim name - a magic negro - lowered the standard.

To this day, I say that even Angela Merkel could qualify for POTUS if she won the plurality of the popular vote. SCOTUS has indicated that they would not overturn a proper election for any reason.

This is a Constitutional crisis we never addressed for fear of being called “rayciss”.


55 posted on 03/11/2016 6:20:01 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations: The acronym defines the science.)
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To: chrisnj

They’really crossing over to vote for Trump in the states with open caucuses. That’s how they kept Chris McDaniel out of office in Mississippi.


56 posted on 03/11/2016 6:22:23 AM PST by Grizzled Bear (No More RINOS!)
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To: John Valentine

” I am certain that under any standard, that of the Framers or a modern standard, Cruz is an NBC.”

Ted Cruz is a naturalized U.S. citizen only by the authority of the U.S. Immigration Act of 1952, a naturalization law that confers only naturalized U.S. citizenship. This was confirmed by the U.S. Supreme Court statement: United State v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649, 18 S.Ct. 456, 42 L.Ed. “A person born out of the jurisdiction of the United States can only become a citizen by being naturalized....” Ted Cruz was born abroad in the foreign nation of Canada as a Canadian citizen, and his U.S. citizenship was acquired only by automatic naturalization. Ted Cruz and all other naturalized citizens of the U.S. are not natural born citizens of the U.S., and they are not eligible to lawfully serve as POTUS.

A significant percentage of Republican voters and a much larger percentage of Democrat voters will not vote for a Presidential candidate born abroad. Consequently, a Ted Cruz campaign will result in a Democrat victory in the 2016 General Election, even if the Democrat candidate was a Yellow Dog candidate.


57 posted on 03/11/2016 6:22:32 AM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: chrisnj

The democrats not only WILL challenge Cruz, they will apply the dual citizen parent test in addition to place of birth test which Cruz claims is not required. This is clearly evidenced by the senate hearing conducted in 2008 which challenged McCain’s natural born status.

Regardless of whether we think McCain’s place of birth was legitimately considered US soil, the relevant aspect of the 2008 senate hearing is that the democrats APPLIED both sets of criteria to include BOTH PARENTS.

How can the GOPe miss this??? They were there... so they KNOW what will happen if Cruz is nominated!
We are being set up by our own party for failure.
Trump is the monkey wrench in their machinery.


58 posted on 03/11/2016 6:23:10 AM PST by Safrguns
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To: nevergore
Did you ever consider changing your vote from Cruz to Bernie since you seem to share similar values?

LMAO!! That's the best one I've heard all day. Let's review: YOU said Cruz would be crushed... ergo it's upon YOU to prove your point. See how that works?

Thanks for the laugh!! :-)

59 posted on 03/11/2016 6:24:51 AM PST by ScottinVA (Breathe, Donald.... Breathe.)
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To: chrisnj

I’ve been paying VERY close attention to the Presidential eligibility issue since before the first Obama victory.

As for the Obama eligibility lawsuits, can you tell me which one of them was successful in getting a declaration or judgement of Presidential ineligibility?

You think that corrupt courts would rule Cruz ineligible just to please their Democrat masters? If it’s really that bad, this election is a fraud from the get-go.

The truth is that challenges to Cruz will meet precisely the same fate as challenges to Obama. And, Cruz has this fact on his side: He IS a natural born citizen of the US, despite his Canadian birthplace.


60 posted on 03/11/2016 6:25:46 AM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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