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Delegates At GOP Convention Not Bound On First Ballot
Daily Caller ^ | 3-13-2016 | Kerry Pickett

Posted on 03/13/2016 3:29:25 PM PDT by dlt

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To: dlt

So why bother with all this primary hoopla?

Your vote doesn’t matter...damn....that only leaves a different kind of box.


21 posted on 03/13/2016 3:46:06 PM PDT by EBH (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: 21twelve

I think that back in the very early days the Electoral College for the general election they could vote the way they wanted to - but that they were elected to the college with their vote in mind. I’m not sure how often if ever they voted their mind rather than the popular vote from their state.


22 posted on 03/13/2016 3:46:23 PM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts It is happening again.)
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To: dlt
The RNC Already Has a Plan For Us


23 posted on 03/13/2016 3:48:17 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Everyone has a plan till they get punched in the mouth -- Mike Tyson)
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To: dlt
If Trump is anywhere close to a majority and he is denied, that's a lot of angry folks. On the other side of the political spectrum, the DNC rules denied Sanders before he even started. If neither Sanders not Trump are nominated, that's a whole lot of angry people, across the political spectrum, agreeing on one thing.

That would be the realization that we are indeed Rome in the decline, right down to having out of control emperors.

This is not a threat, it's a realistic concern: it could lead to a very violent summer.

24 posted on 03/13/2016 3:48:25 PM PDT by grania
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To: dlt

Then why bother to have any primaries?


25 posted on 03/13/2016 3:48:54 PM PDT by dforest (Ted took your money and is laughing all the way to Goldman Sachs)
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To: 21twelve

from wiki re: general election Electoral College:

In United States presidential elections, a faithless elector is a member of the United States Electoral College who does not vote for the presidential or vice presidential candidate for whom he or she had pledged to vote....

The parties have generally been successful in keeping their electors faithful, leaving out the cases in which a candidate died before the elector was able to cast a vote.

Although there have been 157 cases of faithlessness as of 2015, faithless electors have not yet changed the outcome of any presidential election.


26 posted on 03/13/2016 3:49:20 PM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts It is happening again.)
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To: dlt

Whether a delegate is bound or unbound is based on their state rules, not national.


27 posted on 03/13/2016 3:51:56 PM PDT by BlueNgold (May I suggest a very nice 1788 Article V with your supper...)
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To: Iowa David

It’s my understanding that Iowa’s Delegates are bound as a result of what happened last year.


28 posted on 03/13/2016 3:51:59 PM PDT by Iowa Granny (Clintion ruined a dress, but Obama ruined a Nation.)
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To: Ozymandias Ghost

He’s full of it.


29 posted on 03/13/2016 3:52:45 PM PDT by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: dlt

Un effing believable.

I am certain that both the GOP and the Democrats WANT us to revolt, with guns, on the street. There can be no other explanation for their tyranny.


30 posted on 03/13/2016 3:53:23 PM PDT by Lazamataz (I'm an Islamophobe??? Well, good. When it comes to Islam, there's plenty to Phobe about.)
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To: Skywise
"What’s the point of going through all this then?"

It's an integral part of the illusion.

31 posted on 03/13/2016 3:54:44 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: BigEdLB

“Delegates are bound on the first ballot, or they may have a death wish if they stray.”
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To do anything less would be a “to the barricades” moment.


32 posted on 03/13/2016 3:55:57 PM PDT by Ozymandias Ghost
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To: Iowa David
It's their party. They can write rules as they please, and I expect them to. They've already had meetings and mobilized on how to stop Trump at the convention---they are talking to delegates now, flipping delegates, bribing them, threatening them, blackmailing them...

Remember this is the party that told us in 2014 if we would just give them the senate they would repeal Obamacare, secure the border, reduce the deficit, yadayada.

They are capable of doing anything to preserve their Washington kingdoms. They just gave Obama a couple of trillion extra dollars to fund resettlement of Syrians, Planned Parenthood, etc.---everything Obama wants until his term ends (actually I think it is until the end of the FISCAL year in which his term ends.)

33 posted on 03/13/2016 3:57:57 PM PDT by gg188 (Ted Cruz, R - Goldman Sachs)
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To: John Valentine

He’s full of it.
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The reality is if Trump has the plurality of the delegates they had better give him the nomination or there will be hell to pay.


34 posted on 03/13/2016 3:59:22 PM PDT by Ozymandias Ghost
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To: Lazamataz

Well, arrogance combined with stupidity is possible, Laz.


35 posted on 03/13/2016 4:01:04 PM PDT by Redleg Duke (Remember...after the primaries, we better still be on the same team!)
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To: dlt

Has Rancid Penis made a statement on this?


36 posted on 03/13/2016 4:02:01 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: dlt

Yes. It begins.

This doofus does not replace rules.

Anything can happen, just to prop up any alternative dolt who is willing to rob a front runner of his delegates.


37 posted on 03/13/2016 4:03:46 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: Iowa David

States (mostly) decide how their delegates are chosen. RNC rules decide what happens at the convention. The RNC rules specifically state that the rules can be changed a week before the convention.

In Illinois the vote is for the delegate, not the candidate to whom the delegate is allegedly pledged. The popularity of the delegate is just as important, and often more important, than that of the candidate.

I guarantee you there are districts in IL where the delegate is so popular that he wins, even though his candidate will poll 3rd or 4th in that district. And the candidate who polls 1st will lose the delegates because the delegates chosen to represent him are total unknown nobodies.


38 posted on 03/13/2016 4:10:13 PM PDT by spintreebob
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To: Iowa David; dlt
This is how.

First some background on how the convention process would NORMALLY work — again, this is in your typical election. Delegates are bound by either state party rules or law to vote for the candidate who they are assigned to based on the primary or caucus in that state. However, they are usually only bound in the first round of balloting. After that, it varies by state, but delegates are eventually freed up to change their vote. For example in Massachusetts, Trump won 22 delegates. Those delegates are bound to vote Trump in the first round of balloting only. So you would think, if Trump wins 1,237 delegates or more, there would be one round of balloting and he would win the nomination. Trump is the Republican candidate.

So that’s how it normally works, but this isn’t a normal election. We’ve already heard some rumors of back room dealings going on by the GOP establishment. So here’s how Trump could still lose according to a variety of election law experts with whom we spoke. The delegates could vote to change the convention rules even BEFORE the first round of balloting takes place. That’s right, in the days leading up to the convention, the RNC Rules Committee could recommend rules changes to the Convention Rules Committee. That committee could tweak the recommendations but they they would ultimately have to send the new rules to the floor of the convention for a vote by the delegates. If the delegates vote to change the rules so as to ‘unbind’ themselves, then they could vote for whoever they wanted even in that first round.

“The delegates ultimately have the final say in the rules that will govern the convention. That may mean that they opt to unbind themselves, but a majority of them would have to agree to that,”

The above was taken from here:

How GOP Could Still Steal Nomination From Trump Even If He Wins 1,237 Delegates

My personal opinion is that they would never do it though.

39 posted on 03/13/2016 4:10:32 PM PDT by Spunky (Trump says: I am GREEDY! GREEDY! GREEDY! I want to be GREEDY for the U.S.)
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To: Skywise

follow the money


40 posted on 03/13/2016 4:10:50 PM PDT by Nailbiter
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