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The Party Still Decides (Douthat: GOP Should Deny Trump No Matter What)
NY Slimes ^ | 3/12/2016 | Ross "Please Don't" Douthat

Posted on 03/15/2016 12:04:45 PM PDT by mojito

....The weird rigors of this process have not always protected the parties from politically disastrous nominees, like Barry Goldwater or George McGovern. But Goldwater and McGovern were both men of principle and experience and civic virtue, leading factions that had not yet come to full maturity. This made them political losers; it did not make them demagogues.

Trump, though, is cut from a very different cloth. He’s an authoritarian, not an ideologue, and his antecedents aren’t Goldwater or McGovern; they’re figures like George Wallace and Huey Long, with a side of the fictional Buzz Windripfrom Sinclair Lewis’s “It Can’t Happen Here.” No modern political party has nominated a candidate like this; no serious political party ever should.

Because such figures speak — as Wallace did, and Long, and Ross Perot, and others — to real grievances, the process of dealing with them is necessarily painful, and often involves a third-party bid and a difficult reckoning thereafter. Trump would be no exception: Denying him the nomination would indeed be an ugly exercise, one that would weaken or crush the party’s general election chances, and leave the G.O.P. with a long hard climb back up to unity and health.

But if that exercise is painful, it’s also the correct path to choose. A man so transparently unfit for office should not be placed before the American people as a candidate for president under any kind of imprimatur save his own.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: douthat; gope; nyslimes; trump
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Ross Douthat, the Slimes' idea of a conservative and GOPe errand boy, says that the GOPe should deny Trump the nomination, no matter what, because - get this - Trump is the one who is an anti-democratic authoritarian.

That's rich.

Somebody needs to loosen the waistband of Ross' panties. They're in such a tight bunch that they're cutting off oxygen to his brain.

1 posted on 03/15/2016 12:04:45 PM PDT by mojito
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Ross Douchehat is the guy who sent out a tweet suggesting that Trump be assassinated.


2 posted on 03/15/2016 12:05:55 PM PDT by euram
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The GOPe seems concerned that Trump could win. They would prefer Hillary because then it would be business as usual.


3 posted on 03/15/2016 12:07:35 PM PDT by boycott (--s)
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4 posted on 03/15/2016 12:07:49 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Facing Trump nomination inevitability, folks are now openly trying to help Hillary destroy him.)
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It can still be someone from the Bushito-Xlinton crime family...


5 posted on 03/15/2016 12:08:31 PM PDT by newfreep (TRUMP & <S>Cruz</S> 2016 - "Evil succeeds when good men do nothing" - Edmund Burke)
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I hadn't heard that, but it figures.

Little Ross is trying extra hard to please his bosses and Slimes readers, so he's playing a little psycho-drama that Trump is Hitler, because that's what everyone who reads the Slimes already knows, and Ross is going to show them how “principled” he is by destroying the democratic process - because, you know, this time it's really necessary.

6 posted on 03/15/2016 12:10:18 PM PDT by mojito (Zero, our Nero.)
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And the Party is made up of millions of Voters, not the DC Pundit class.


7 posted on 03/15/2016 12:12:28 PM PDT by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered)
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The five stages, denial, anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance are a part of the framework that makes up our learning to live with the one we lost. They are tools to help us frame and identify what we may be feeling. But they are not stops on some linear timeline in grief.

This “Brokered Convention” nonsense is the bargaining stage.


8 posted on 03/15/2016 12:13:05 PM PDT by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered)
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New York Times columnist tweets joke about killing Trump

http://nypost.com/2016/02/25/new-york-times-columnist-tweets-joke-about-killing-trump/


9 posted on 03/15/2016 12:13:23 PM PDT by euram
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a politician’s loyalty to the political party over the constitution and the people is treason against their oath of office and they do not deserve to be in any position as a public representative


10 posted on 03/15/2016 12:19:24 PM PDT by drypowder
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And the Party is made up of millions of Voters, not the DC Pundit class.

Ross claims that he's advocating the GOPe should do this for the good of the party and the country. Can you imagine what would happen to the GOP if Trump wins the required number of delegates and the party then deposes their presumptive nominee? There very well could be riots and the GOP would cease to exist almost overnight.

11 posted on 03/15/2016 12:21:36 PM PDT by mojito (Zero, our Nero.)
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And the Party is made up of millions of Voters, not the DC Pundit class.

Ross claims that he's advocating the GOPe should do this for the good of the party and the country. Can you imagine what would happen to the GOP if Trump wins the required number of delegates and the party then deposes their presumptive nominee? There very well could be riots and the GOP would cease to exist almost overnight.

12 posted on 03/15/2016 12:21:42 PM PDT by mojito (Zero, our Nero.)
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A political party is not much of a party if a majority of the members walk out.


13 posted on 03/15/2016 12:22:00 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: MNJohnnie

Sorry for the double post.

My computer had a hiccup.


14 posted on 03/15/2016 12:22:43 PM PDT by mojito (Zero, our Nero.)
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And there you see the slimes real agenda

that would weaken or crush the party’s general election chances

15 posted on 03/15/2016 12:23:40 PM PDT by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered)
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How to run a 3rd party candidacy?

1. Actually try to win. That means a presence in all 50 states, at least the states that you have even the slightest prayer of winning in, and definitely any state that is part of your pathway to victory.

2. You must take a majority of electors yourself, OR prevent any other candidate from getting a majority.

3. If you have a majority, then you are the POTUS.

4. If you do not, then it goes to the House for the Potus. In the house each state delegation gets one vote as determined by the vote of the members of that state.

5. You must get 50%+1 of the state votes. The 3rd party candidate will probably lose. The republicans will probably win, but it is possible to form coalitions with various states to win, but I can’t imagine what the deals would be.

6. In short, either Trump would win or the Republicans would win the presidency.

7. Oddly, he wouldn’t necessarily get his VP, because that goes to the Senate, iirc.


16 posted on 03/15/2016 12:27:08 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Prayer for Victory is the ONLY way to support the troops!)
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Trump will go 3rd party if these vermin steal the nomination from him.


17 posted on 03/15/2016 12:28:05 PM PDT by Signalman
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We need to show more appreciation to the RNC. Their job is to correct things when us stupid voters make a dumb decision. Just like their copy of the US Constitution says. That's a tough job but is protects the country from something I'm too stupid to understand (just ask Ted). /s (for the people who've been thinking I'm serious with posts like this)
18 posted on 03/15/2016 12:35:51 PM PDT by LostPassword
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Horse apples!


19 posted on 03/15/2016 12:38:38 PM PDT by Forty-Niner (Ursus Arctos Horribilis (Ursa Arctos Californicus))
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“transparently unfit for office”, he’s talking about OBASTARD, right?


20 posted on 03/15/2016 12:54:16 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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