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To: mountainlion

You stated 3 different actions.

1) disrupting a private event is tresspass and as such, that is why the protester was being removed under police custody.

2) no one has said that wrestling with cops is NOT resisting arrest. So I’m not sure why you mentioned that.

3) flipping a bird ... no it is NOT insighting a riot. In fact, it is first amendment protected free speech.


22 posted on 03/17/2016 7:44:05 AM PDT by taxcontrol ( The GOPe treats the conservative base like slaves by taking their votes and refuses to pay)
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To: taxcontrol

I would think it can be argued that flipping a bird” constituted “fighting words” and is NOT protected by the First Amendment. That being said, striking someone for doing so would also likely NOT be seen as a justifiable act. On the other hand, the totality of the protester’s actions might be portrayed as threatening and violent to such a degree that a “reasonable man” feared for his safety. Unlikely, but possible.


30 posted on 03/17/2016 8:02:30 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: taxcontrol

Here’s the definition of California penal code sec. 415
aka disturbing the peace.

415. Any of the following persons shall be punished by imprisonment
in the county jail for a period of not more than 90 days, a fine of
not more than four hundred dollars ($400), or both such imprisonment
and fine:
(1) Any person who unlawfully fights in a public place or
challenges another person in a public place to fight.
(2) Any person who maliciously and willfully disturbs another
person by loud and unreasonable noise.
(3) Any person who uses offensive words in a public place which
are inherently likely to provoke an immediate violent reaction.

Giving the finger may be interpreted by some to be protected speech when the act is directed to a public official, but I don’t think the same applies when directed to a private person.

In other words, certain actions or words inherently likely to provoke a violent reaction still constitute a breach of the public peace.

I think it can easily be shown that not only was the finger being given by the protester to everyone in the vicinity, but also that his actions were accompanied by inflammatory words as well.

Just because the law has been selectively enforced doesn’t negate the fact that it’s still a law on the books.


33 posted on 03/17/2016 8:10:13 AM PDT by Nacho Bidnith (America is a country founded by geniuses and run by idiots. Trump 2016)
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To: taxcontrol
So I’m not sure why you mentioned that.

Just part of the argument that the thug had it coming.

flipping a bird ...

Is in no way easing the situation and part of why the thug got slugged and why he had it coming.
Wasn't this the thug that was ISIS sympathiser?

50 posted on 03/17/2016 9:24:26 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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