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February data now in: Crime continues to explode in the legal pot metropolis of Denver
americanthinker.com ^ | 3/19/2016 | Sierra Rayne

Posted on 03/19/2016 5:58:30 AM PDT by rktman

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To: disndat

almost ALL drug addicts admitted to our facility will have weed in their system...along with meth, cocaine, etc....the quest to further obliterate their senses is NEVER satisfied...


61 posted on 03/19/2016 9:47:33 AM PDT by cherry
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To: MileHi

maybe the whole point is the free drug people were wrong....legalizing weed does not solve anything...its not a panacea and it certainly is enabling the worse characteristics in people...


62 posted on 03/19/2016 9:49:04 AM PDT by cherry
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To: UCANSEE2

If that isn’t planed destruction of a country nothing is.


63 posted on 03/19/2016 10:46:27 AM PDT by Vaduz (women and children to be impacted the most.)
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To: Drew68

Murders are up in cities all across America, most of which did not legalize pot.
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That’s the nugget I was looking for ... an actual comparison to similar cities that did not legalize.. FBI STATS state crime in general in the Western USA being down by about 2% ,, getting the latest stats is difficult to piece together but this is fairly recent from Colorado and shows crime , especially murder/homicide being down significantly.. http://legacy.9news.com/story/news/crime/2015/07/02/2014-colorado-crime-report/29630825/


64 posted on 03/19/2016 11:23:57 AM PDT by Neidermeyer (Bill Clinton is a 5 star general in the WAR ON WOMEN and Hillary is his Goebbels.)
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To: exDemMom
Excuse me. I've done that, and I do not drive impaired. In fact, I do not even use marijuana.

Eventually, I realized that the sign was not going to turn green...

LOL! Maybe your body naturally produces a lot of endocannabinoids. ;-D

65 posted on 03/19/2016 12:22:53 PM PDT by ConservingFreedom (Trump fans:'he's no more conservative than Mitt'-www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3389209/posts)
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To: Twinkie
Does pot cooked in food have a weaker or stronger effect on people than pot smoked in cigarettes?

Strength depends on amount consumed. I've heard it's a different effect - slower to take effect and more prone to hallucinatory effects.

66 posted on 03/19/2016 12:25:26 PM PDT by ConservingFreedom (Trump fans:'he's no more conservative than Mitt'-www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3389209/posts)
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To: exDemMom; Gadsden1st
So far, the medical benefits attributed to marijuana use are anecdotal.

False. The Institute of Medicine reports: "Advances in cannabinoid science of the past 16 years have given rise to a wealth of new opportunities for the development of medically useful cannabinoid-based drugs. The accumulated data suggest a variety of indications, particularly for pain relief, antiemesis, and appetite stimulation. For patients such as those with AIDS or who are undergoing chemotherapy, and who suffer simultaneously from severe pain, nausea, and appetite loss, cannabinoid drugs might offer broad-spectrum relief not found in any other single medication."

67 posted on 03/19/2016 12:37:03 PM PDT by ConservingFreedom (Trump fans:'he's no more conservative than Mitt'-www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3389209/posts)
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To: rktman
So how do drug warriors blame this on legal pot? =>

Dark side of ND's oil boom: Meth, heroin, cartels _ all part of growing drug trade

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/04/12/dark-side-nd-oil-boom-meth-heroin-cartels-all-part-growing-drug-trade-1418696252.html

68 posted on 03/19/2016 12:44:28 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: ConservingFreedom

Thus far, no reports that I have looked at, including on PubMed, showed any more than anecdotal evidence of medicinal marijuana claims. People have linked to medical articles indexed in PubMed showing research into exploiting the endocannabinoid receptors for therapeutic purpose—but that is completely different than using a chemical extracted from marijuana as a therapeutic. Often, those advocating “medical marijuana” do not know or understand the distinction.


69 posted on 03/19/2016 12:47:01 PM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: Caipirabob; exDemMom
Anyway, yeah, I could see the stuff as medicinal

I just procured a tincture of Cannabidiol (CBD), the compound that probably is responsible for most of the legitimate beneficial medical effects. There is no psychoactive effect from CBD, no euphoria or altered consciousness other than a possible mild sedative effect, and is legal in all 57 states. One thing I can tell you after just a few doses is it stops restless legs syndrome dead in its tracks, totally disappears. There are numerous other plausible benefits.

According to a 2013 review published in the British Journal of Clinical Pharmacology, studies have found CBD to possess the following medical properties:

Medical Properties of CBD
Antiemetic - Combats nausea and vomiting
Anticonvulsant - Combats seizure activity
Antipsychotic - Combats psychosis disorders
Anti-inflammatory - Combats inflammatory disorders
Anti-oxidant - Combats neurodegenerative disorders
Anti-tumoral/Anti-cancer - Combats tumor and cancer cells
Anxiolytic/Anti-depressant - Combats anxiety and depression disorders

I'm skeptical of the anti-cancer claim myself but blocking of benign tumor development has been shown in animal studies.

More topical to the article, I am not aware of any huge spike or any spike in crime in WA State related to marijuana legalization. Not sure why Colorado is so different. Here in WA some schools report more mj on campus and others report less. Nothing consistent at all. Some districts have seen more THC DUI others no change. Street crime is entirely unaffected around here (SE WA).

70 posted on 03/19/2016 1:09:19 PM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc OMorgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: steve86

Meant to add I did see a reduction in anxiety right away after taking CBD, although I want to give this more time to evaluate as it ebbs and flows on its own.


71 posted on 03/19/2016 1:11:09 PM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc OMorgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: ConservingFreedom

(THC oral consumption) And the duration of effect is a lot longer — overnight instead of a couple hours. This would make me uncomfortable. If I ever try marijuana I want the effect to be gone long before daybreak.


72 posted on 03/19/2016 1:14:48 PM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc OMorgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: exDemMom

A few of the hundreds of research citations from the Iom (http://www.nap.edu/read/6376/chapter/6#181):

Chang AE, Shiling DJ, Stillman RC, et al. 1979. Delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol as an antiemetic in patients receiving high-dose methotrexate: A prospective, randomized evaluation. Annals of Internal Medicine 91:819-824.

Mattes RD, Engelman K, Shaw LM, Elsohly MA. 1994. Cannabinoids and appetite stimulation. Pharmacology, Biochemistry and Behavior 49:187-195.

Noyes Jr R, Brunk SF, Baram DA, Canter A. 1975a. Analgesic effect of delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol. Journal of Clinical Pharmacology 15:139-143.


73 posted on 03/19/2016 1:16:41 PM PDT by ConservingFreedom (Trump fans:'he's no more conservative than Mitt'-www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3389209/posts)
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To: cherry

Well if Cruz is elected or hillary we won’t have people with drug problems anymore cause we just won’t have people.


74 posted on 03/19/2016 1:32:28 PM PDT by disndat
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To: Ken H

Frickin’ frackin’ evil fossil fuels of course. Fossil fuels are the root of all evil. LOL!


75 posted on 03/19/2016 1:37:41 PM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: ConservingFreedom

1979? 1994? 1975?

Having to go back that far to find research that supports “medical marijuana” claims is an indication that later research did not validate the results.

When I went to PubMed just now and searched “medical marijuana benefits”, most of what I found were policy articles, reviews, meta-analyses, and anecdotal reports. Significantly, what I did NOT find were any controlled studies in animals or in cells demonstrating beneficial effects, or clinical trials against placebo or against current gold-standard treatments. In other words, the evidence of medical benefits of marijuana use is not there.

When I looked up “Delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol” on PubMed, I found mostly negative reports, along with the policy discussions and other less-than-definitive evidence. One trial of use of d9-THC for treatment of post-operative nausea and vomiting was discontinued for lack of efficacy and high level of adverse effects. (Whenever I have had surgery, the anti-emetic they gave me was completely effective against nausea and had no side effects.)

In short, despite the time I have spent perusing PubMed for high-quality studies supporting the use of marijuana or one of its chemical components for medicinal purposes, I am unsuccessful. However, finding evidence of adverse effects of components of marijuana is pretty easy.


76 posted on 03/19/2016 2:01:42 PM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: exDemMom
Having to go back that far to find research that supports “medical marijuana” claims is an indication that later research did not validate the results.

Wrong; there are other theories that explain the observation - for example, an absence of more recent research. (And the review I quoted was assembled in 1999).

When I went to PubMed just now and searched “medical marijuana benefits”, most of what I found were policy articles, reviews, meta-analyses, and anecdotal reports.

Reviews and meta-analyses of what - controlled studies in animals or in cells, or clinical trials?

77 posted on 03/19/2016 4:12:42 PM PDT by ConservingFreedom (Trump fans:'he's no more conservative than Mitt'-www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3389209/posts)
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To: disndat

Many dopers use MJ and other drugs and/or booze. People who want to get intoxicated will do anything they can find or is at hand or gets them wasted enough.

Plenty of crimes are committed by people on MJ and other drugs at the same time. The idea that everyone who smokes MJ is a harmless mellow person is not true.


78 posted on 03/19/2016 4:13:19 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Half the truth is often a great lie. B. Franklin)
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To: exDemMom
So far, the medical benefits attributed to marijuana use are anecdotal.

Isn't that properly a question for doctors and researchers, rather than politicians and bureaucrats?

79 posted on 03/19/2016 4:30:32 PM PDT by ConservingFreedom (Trump fans:'he's no more conservative than Mitt'-www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3389209/posts)
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To: little jeremiah
Plenty of crimes are committed by people on MJ and other drugs at the same time.

Plenty of crimes are committed by people who are stone cold sober.

80 posted on 03/19/2016 4:31:47 PM PDT by ConservingFreedom (Trump fans:'he's no more conservative than Mitt'-www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3389209/posts)
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