Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

A Peace Pipe Made In America
Townhall.com ^ | March 20, 2016 | Paul Jacob

Posted on 03/20/2016 8:13:08 AM PDT by Kaslin

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-27 last
To: ConservativeMind

///The stats are describing only crimes related to that specific drug as related to that drug’s introduction.///

That is not what your article states. It simply states crime went up after weed was legalized. This is like saying the sun came up because the rooster crowed. Correlation.

The crime rate could have increased due to an influx of illegals, drought in the ski areas, who knows. Any number of theories could relate to the cause. Causation is a rigorous statistical measure to weight which theory is more probable.

You have not introduced any studies which could explain the cause of the crime rate increase.

Your example of the casino is more correlative theory. It might be plain as day to you but I reserve judgment until I see actual evidence.

You might not realize it but you are using the same arguments environmental alarmists and evolutionists use to support their theories.

I’ll let the Denver Police have the final word.

“Crime is up,” said Denver police spokesman Sonny Jackson, “ but I don’t know if you can relate it to marijuana.”


21 posted on 03/20/2016 11:04:39 AM PDT by Ceebass
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: ConservativeMind
I would have no problems with drugs being made legal if we had no social net for their use/abuse. [Emphasis my own.]

It is not the fault (nor the responsibility) of the upstanding, tax-paying, and law-abiding consumers of alcohol or marijuana if others have instituted a "Nanny State" and erected a social net that encourages and nurtures moochers and losers who "give no thought to the morrow" and fritter away their productive years in an alcoholic (or marijuana-induced) stupor and/or become, essentially, wards of the State because they can't / won't care for themselves.

In other words: It is impermissible for you to hold me accountable (and take away my privileges - including the use of my recreational drug of choice in the privacy of my own home) for 1) the creation of a Welfare State, or for 2) the reckless and immoral behavior of the wastrels of the world.

Otherwise, that logic could be used to consfiscate - in the name of your beloved "prevention" - all firearms... because "some low-down polecats misuse their 2nd Amendment Rights", commit crimes, injury themselves, etc. (Just one example.)

Regards,

22 posted on 03/20/2016 11:24:33 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: alexander_busek

It is impermissible that any social benefits financially help anyone with private consumption of drugs.

Yet, it exists.


23 posted on 03/20/2016 11:36:16 AM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: ConservativeMind
It is impermissible that any social benefits financially help anyone with private consumption of drugs.

Finally, you've identified a cause worth fighting for!

Go fight for that cause - a cause which I, too, support!

But leave me (a law-abiding tax-payer who supports himself) alone with your desire to regulate how I choose to addle my brains (be it with Jim Beam, Sterno, daytime soap operas, or marijuana) in my own four walls!

Regards,

24 posted on 03/20/2016 11:42:26 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: ConservativeMind
Look at the increase in crime in parts of Colorado, too, though.

Now that they are keeping track again...

25 posted on 03/20/2016 1:58:26 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: ConservativeMind
“Since 2012, the year when Colorado voters passed recreational marijuana legalization, the number of crimes in Denver has grown by about 44 percent, according to annual figures the city reported to the National Incident Based Reporting System.”

Without the corresponding figures nationwide, and for cities of comparable size, your factoid is meaningless.

26 posted on 03/20/2016 2:13:04 PM PDT by ConservingFreedom (Trump fans:'he's no more conservative than Mitt'-www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3389209/posts)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: ConservativeMind; Smokin' Joe

[I’m glad about the economic boom, but there might be a cost.]

Anchorage: marijuana legalization followed by 167% more murders

Alaska legalizes pot, crime explodes in Anchorage
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3411132/posts

‘In February of 2015, it became legal to grow and consume marijuana in Alaska. And, as has happened in Denver and Seattle, crime immediately began to increase after being stable or declining in the pre-legal pot era.’ [snip]

‘... the number of violent crimes in Anchorage (the only city reporting for Alaska) increased 34% compared to the same period in 2014. Murders were up 167%, and aggravated assaults increased 32% versus the first six months of 2014...’

[So, the overall violence rose by 1/3 while the murder rate exploded. Criminals become more vicious in a pot-infested society.]

February data now in: Crime continues to explode in the legal pot metropolis of Denver
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3411131/posts


27 posted on 03/21/2016 3:58:41 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Obama giving away the internet: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3407691/posts?page=38)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-27 last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson