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Trump Is Right—–Dump NATO Now
David Stockman's Contra Corner ^ | March 23, 2016 | David Stockman

Posted on 03/25/2016 12:43:45 PM PDT by all the best

If you want to know why we have a $19 trillion national debt and a fiscal structure that will take that already staggering figure to $35 trillion and 140% of GDP within a decade, just consider the latest campaign fracas. That is, the shrieks of disbelief in response to Donald Trump’s sensible suggestion that the Europeans pay for their own defense.

The fact is, NATO has been an obsolete waste for 25 years. Yet the denizens of the Imperial City cannot even seem to grasp that the 4 million Red Army is no more; and that the Soviet Empire, which enslaved 410 million souls to its economic and military service, vanished from the pages of history in December 1991.

What is left is a pitiful remnant—–145 million aging, Vodka-besotted Russians who subsist in what is essentially a failing third world economy. Its larcenous oligarchy of Putin and friends appeared to live high on the hog and to spread a veneer of glitz around Moscow and St. Petersburg. But that was all based on the world’s one-time boom in oil, gas, nickel, aluminum, fertilizer, steel and other commodities and processed industrial materials.

Stated differently, the Russian economy is a glorified oil patch and mining town with a GDP the equivalent of the NYC metropolitan area. And that’s its devastating Achilles Heel.

The central bank driven global commodity and industrial boom is over and done. As a new cycle of epic deflation engulfs the world and further compresses commodity prices and profits, the Russian economy is going down for the count; it’s already been shrunk by nearly 10% in real terms, and the bottom is a long way down from there.

The plain fact is Russia is an economic and military weakling and is not the slightest threat...

(Excerpt) Read more at davidstockmanscontracorner.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Russia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: isolationism; nato; obamadoctrine; putin; putinstrollarmy; russia; trump; whatanidiot
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1 posted on 03/25/2016 12:43:45 PM PDT by all the best
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To: all the best

They have bad ass tanks and nukes. I’d say that is a realistic threat.


2 posted on 03/25/2016 12:45:41 PM PDT by refermech
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To: all the best

Don’t forget the AHs at the U.N.

Get um out!!


3 posted on 03/25/2016 12:46:52 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: all the best

Well, come to think of it, there is no threat from the Warsaw Pact anymore. It might be a good time to dissolve NATO, sign a defense treaty with the UK, and tell the rest of the EU to defend itself.


4 posted on 03/25/2016 12:48:09 PM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: all the best

NATO should have disbanded when the USSR collapsed.

NATO putting the pinch on Russia by expanding along their European border had a lot to do with turning Russia hard line again.


5 posted on 03/25/2016 12:48:47 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Noah: 'When the animals began to pair up by specie and stand in line, I really took notice.')
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To: all the best

I just finished reading a Wapo transcript where Trump explicitly says not to dump NATO.

So what is this article’s source for its claim that Trump wants to dump NATO?


6 posted on 03/25/2016 12:52:18 PM PDT by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: Little Ray
... and tell the rest of the EU to defend itself.

That is my feeling as well. US Taxpayer subsidized Euro socialism is over - defend yourselves and lets see how that socialismo thing works when you have to foot the bill!

7 posted on 03/25/2016 12:53:10 PM PDT by corkoman
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To: all the best

The UN has to go first.


8 posted on 03/25/2016 12:54:35 PM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: all the best

Since it is apparent Europe is now EuArabia let them sort out their own problems at their own dime.


9 posted on 03/25/2016 1:00:50 PM PDT by Lent
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To: all the best

And if he had events over Easter weekend, Jeff Roe would be accusing Trump of not being a Christian.


10 posted on 03/25/2016 1:02:31 PM PDT by grania
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Have no doubt Trump would send the UN Packing.

He was advocating back in the 80's.

Free rent, no taxes, time to go.

11 posted on 03/25/2016 1:05:13 PM PDT by rineaux (It's not a lie, it's Ted Truth.)
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To: all the best

NATO is a just one more siphon hooked up to the American taxpayer to pay for the EU’S protection. The UN needs to be pushed into the east river also


12 posted on 03/25/2016 1:05:20 PM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: refermech

On the other hand so do the French and British. And except for nuclear, the Germans as well. Unless nuclear came into play the Russians would have their hands full dealing with Poland. Not a Trump fan but I can see the logic of his position.


13 posted on 03/25/2016 1:07:27 PM PDT by katana (+)
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To: corkoman

Too bad any money saved from defense will immediately be wasted on ‘social spending’ instead of reducing the deficit.


14 posted on 03/25/2016 1:09:58 PM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: all the best

And yet somehow those drunk broke Russians manage to engineer the best rocket engines in the world...go figure.


15 posted on 03/25/2016 1:14:58 PM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aiderai)
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To: all the best

Trump didn’t say dump NATO. If he did I would criticize him for it.


16 posted on 03/25/2016 1:16:32 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Little Ray

Donald says there is school in Brooklyn that needs the money. He will use his “big heart” to send it there.


17 posted on 03/25/2016 1:18:07 PM PDT by BigBobber
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To: Mount Athos

Trump doesn’t want to get out of NATO. Only have the member nations pay more and the USA pay less.


18 posted on 03/25/2016 1:26:22 PM PDT by Jay Thomas (If not for my faith in Christ, I would despair.)
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To: all the best

As long as Turkey is a member, Islam will have veto power over NATO.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2517173/posts


19 posted on 03/25/2016 1:27:25 PM PDT by Amerisraelhere
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To: Iron Munro

Good points, both.

I always say that NATO should have been stood up in 1918, 1922 at the latest. It would have saved a whole lot of trouble. Doing so after WWII was too little, too late.


20 posted on 03/25/2016 1:27:25 PM PDT by PatrickJames
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