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New Jersey hospital emergency room becomes first in U.S. to end use of opioid painkillers
PIX11 ^ | March 30,2016

Posted on 03/31/2016 6:02:17 AM PDT by Wolfie

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To: pepsionice

I think you and the Government should absolutely decide who needs what. $crew the Doctors and what they think. The same goes for birth control and abortions-—right?


61 posted on 03/31/2016 7:00:10 AM PDT by R Rogers
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To: dhs12345
Wonder what kind of pain meds they give for major surgery.

Having had four major lower back surgeries, morphine drips are fairly common for pain from major surgery. If they ever put that stuff in six-packs, I'm buying it!

All joking aside, I've also been given opiods after having major back surgery and never found them to be addictive myself. I typically stopped taking them after a few days at home and threw the rest away.

While they're great at relieving pain, I really didn't like the effect of my head feeling like it was floating three feet over my body and sleeping most of the time. I like to be in control of my faculties and opiods really inhibit that.

That's just me though I suppose.

62 posted on 03/31/2016 7:00:54 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: pepsionice

I think you and the Government should absolutely decide who needs what. $crew the Doctors and what they think. The same goes for birth control and abortions-—right?


63 posted on 03/31/2016 7:03:17 AM PDT by R Rogers
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To: pepsionice

I think you and the Government should absolutely decide who needs what. $crew the Doctors and what they think. The same goes for birth control and abortions-—right?


64 posted on 03/31/2016 7:04:40 AM PDT by R Rogers
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To: fungoking

This is common whining and they were not nurses.


65 posted on 03/31/2016 7:06:10 AM PDT by MarMema (2016 - Trump or Goldman Sachs)
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To: rarestia
Plenty of other options for pain management.

I'm not saying there aren't. I'm noting that, in the article, there is no mention of alternatives. I'm still curious.

66 posted on 03/31/2016 7:07:37 AM PDT by raybbr (That progressive bumpers sticker on your car might just as well say, "Yes, I'm THAT stupid!")
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To: Wolfie

Mean while the makers of cheap Mexican Tar Heroin are smiling. More potential customers.

God only knows what they are mixing with it.


67 posted on 03/31/2016 7:09:24 AM PDT by hadaclueonce (This time it is serious.)
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To: Wolfie
Demetria Washington said she started on pills before moving on to heroin. "Then I couldn’t get to it no more and a girlfriend of mine was like well you could just try heroin. And I tried it and I liked it."

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that I don't think the pills were the initial problem here.

68 posted on 03/31/2016 7:13:37 AM PDT by Dahoser (Separation of church and state? No, we need separation of media and state.)
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To: rarestia

I take it you’ve never had a broken bone that had to be re-set without surgery.

I certainly wouldn’t want to show up that hospital with a broken bone. Someone should give Dr. Rosenberg a badly fractured wrist, and then discuss pain management for acute pain with him.

Indeed, they seem to have it backwards. They should be limiting opioids to acute cases, and banning them for chronic conditions. A week or so of painkillers won’t cause addiction. It’s the long term use for chronic pain management that’s causing the problem.


69 posted on 03/31/2016 7:15:10 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: dead

Yes...I saw that and thought the same. Shame she has no shame.


70 posted on 03/31/2016 7:15:22 AM PDT by goodnesswins (Alinsky.....it's what's for dinner)
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To: Wolfie

It looks as if the PC medical community doesn’t feel your pain anymore.

Decades ago I read a science fiction novel, possibly by Heinlein, where only the elites received modern drugs for medical treatment. Common people had to content themselves with aspirin.

Seems as if we are almost there.


71 posted on 03/31/2016 7:15:24 AM PDT by DakotaGator (Weep for the lost Republic! And keep your powder dry!!)
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To: halfright
Interesting, states with legal marijuana have seen a 25% drop off in opiod deaths.
72 posted on 03/31/2016 7:15:49 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: MarMema

Perhaps I wasn’t clear, the nurses joined the discussion after the phone call.

I have a friend who is a dentist, after having some work done he prescribed me some powerful pain killers. He talked about how many phone calls they get or people who come in just hoping to get drugs.

I don’t think anyone should find this shocking, Rush did it.


73 posted on 03/31/2016 7:15:53 AM PDT by fungoking (40% share for a TV show is a hit; in the 2016 election it a loss in a landslide, hello Pres Hillary)
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To: MarMema

I am personally acquainted with kidney stones. If I pass a few more, I can re-gravel my driveway.


74 posted on 03/31/2016 7:18:30 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: MarMema

I’m almost 70. I’ve had two neck fusions, rotator cuff repair, and the re-attachment of four severed tendons in my right hand. (My surgeons agree that I have an active lifestyle.) The severed tendons were, by far, the most painful. Even then, I was off the opioids within a week. I was off the painkillers, other than Tylenol, within 48 hours.

In each surgery, I was usually given a prescription for 60 opioids with two or three renewals. I do think that is over prescribing, but it is a matter of personal discipline too. Problem is, doctors prescribe a pill every four/six hours and give patients enough pills to last several weeks. Patients believe they should follow this instructions so they take the pills for weeks on end. Now we wonder why people become addicted.


75 posted on 03/31/2016 7:24:10 AM PDT by DugwayDuke
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To: halfright

Try Vitamin C ...start with 1000mg day....work up to the tolerance level. ..you’ll know...cause you won’t have a bowel problem any more...could be 4000mg day or more


76 posted on 03/31/2016 7:24:24 AM PDT by goodnesswins (Alinsky.....it's what's for dinner)
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To: fungoking

They really are not nurses. Maybe one nurse in the office if he does conscious sedation.

I hear that kind of thing a lot. It’s a superiority healthcare worker thing.
I hear it mostly from the clerical and medical assistant staff.
Almost never in the ER.
Very rarely from professional staff.


77 posted on 03/31/2016 7:25:01 AM PDT by MarMema (2016 - Trump or Goldman Sachs)
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To: Wolfie

I was embarrassed to try it but damn it worked.


78 posted on 03/31/2016 7:26:03 AM PDT by halfright (Character is what a man does when nobody is watching....go Mr. Trump!)
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To: dhs12345

Right. And burns. Sure, there are other options for burns. /s


79 posted on 03/31/2016 7:26:30 AM PDT by MarMema (2016 - Trump or Goldman Sachs)
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To: servantboy777
That's right, ban something that would help the majority because of a small minority.

If there is an attempt to "ban" opioids by the fedgov I will be right there with you.

But I don't have any problem at all with a hospital that decides to take them out of the ED.

Unless you have worked in an ED or urgent care center you have no idea how much time and money is wasted in dealing with whingeing drug seekers. And it's your money, because 80% of them are on Medicaid or subsidized Obamacare plans.

80 posted on 03/31/2016 7:28:38 AM PDT by Eric Pode of Croydon
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