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Ted Cruz wins citizenship case in Pennsylvania Supreme Court
WFMZ-TV ^ | March 31, 2016 | The Associated Press and Staff

Posted on 03/31/2016 11:39:57 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: orinoco
Did the state Supreme Court define natural born citizen?

The court denied the appeal, which confirms the lower court decision. Cruz is eligible and the court is silent beyond that.

101 posted on 03/31/2016 1:15:49 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: Berlin_Freeper
I have and neither makes much sense to me.

However, I'm getting used to the 'Two' Thessalonians-level delusion we're calling "truth" in these days, so it's all good, right?

These days I'm more clear about my place in the bigger picture and I'm at peace.

Like the test screen used to say, for now "Never trouble trouble till trouble troubles you" seems to apply.

102 posted on 03/31/2016 1:16:14 PM PDT by GBA (Here in the matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: GilGil

The New American Colony of the New World Order. What kind of flag should we have?


103 posted on 03/31/2016 1:17:02 PM PDT by x_plus_one
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To: Cboldt

Even Obama is more American the Ted Cruz. Sad to Say.


104 posted on 03/31/2016 1:18:26 PM PDT by x_plus_one
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To: Just mythoughts
Not under 'original intent'!!!!

In your opinion, but your opinion is worth a bucket of spit. So far, not a single court has ruled in favor of your position. I predict that the trend will continue.

105 posted on 03/31/2016 1:18:55 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: AFret.
-- So much for discovery. This silly, inept court apparently did not ask for Raphael's US birth documents. All anyone has seen are his Canadian birth cert, and mom's birth cert. --

For purposes of the trial, facts were stipulated. The issued boiled down to whether a person who is a citizen at birth soley by virtue of an Act of Congress is a NBC, which is purely a question of law.

106 posted on 03/31/2016 1:19:16 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: x_plus_one

The flag should be all white!


107 posted on 03/31/2016 1:20:18 PM PDT by GilGil
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To: Robert DeLong
If you believe Pellegrini's ruling of what a natural born citizen is, then we are doomed and the Constitution as the Framers created it is a dead document.

Exactly. The courts are turning what the Founders intended completely around. Instead of citizenship being based on one's natural Allegiance, one's allegiance is assumed via 'legal' citizenship.

108 posted on 03/31/2016 1:20:32 PM PDT by MamaTexan (I am a person as created by the Law of Nature, not a person as created by the laws of Man.)
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To: GilGil

How about some grafitti?


109 posted on 03/31/2016 1:21:21 PM PDT by x_plus_one
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To: AFret.

It is the job of the plaintiff to present evidence that would influence the Court in their direction. That is not the job of the defendant.
If a Certificate of Naturalization was ever issued to Senator Cruz, that fact could be easily uncovered via a Freedom of Information Act request.


110 posted on 03/31/2016 1:23:18 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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To: Sacajaweau
These cases are all considered dismissed for one reason or another. Means nothing.

Is he eligible? IMHO, NO!

Actually, the courts have been sending a strong and consistent message for over eight years. The definition of citizens at birth laid out in USC 8, Section 1401 are Constitutial and constitute the definition of natural born citizen for purposes of Presidential eligibility.

The drama, such as it were, is over; although the long slow excruciating death throes will continue among the die hards.

111 posted on 03/31/2016 1:24:14 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: centurion316

AMEN!


112 posted on 03/31/2016 1:25:26 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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To: x_plus_one

How about tie die?


113 posted on 03/31/2016 1:26:14 PM PDT by GilGil
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To: GilGil

My 4th great grandparents were both born in the American colony of New York...1757 and 1767

they were both children of 2 American colony born parents, the descendants of people born or lived here for generations

they met and married in the new country of Canada and had children all born there...my 5th ggf was born in 1797...was he eligible to be POTUS ???

that man never lived anywhere else but Canada and married a woman born in Vermont (the child of of other US born people) and had children all born in Canada...their son born in 1831 was my 2nd great great grandfather...

was this last man eligible to be president ???

Of course he was based on what the courts and some FReepers here have determined...

and yet the Obama birthers claimed he wasn’t and at that time I agreed with them...

however now we have Cruz also born in Canada to an American born mother but a foreign born father with no previous American ancestors, and suddenly the rules have changed ???


114 posted on 03/31/2016 1:27:21 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: hoosiermama
Next step SCOTUS.

That is possible, but unlikely, I believe. The Court has never been inclined to hear a Presidential eligibility case, and with the denial of this appeal, they will have even less reason to hear this.

115 posted on 03/31/2016 1:27:23 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: Nero Germanicus
-- If a Certificate of Naturalization was ever issued to Senator Cruz, that fact could be easily uncovered via a Freedom of Information Act request. --

That's false.

Record Requests Frequently Asked Questions | USCIS

If the immigrant was born less than 100 years ago, you will also need to provide proof of his/her death. ...

116 posted on 03/31/2016 1:28:16 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: DannyTN
I’ll wait for analysis of the opinion

You'll have a long wait. The Pennsylvania Supreme Court denied the appeal without accepting an argument and did so Per Curiam which means unanimously. It's dead, Jim.

117 posted on 03/31/2016 1:30:05 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: Tennessee Nana

This Pennsylvania decision does not say American born only American citizen that can mean American born or naturalized.

So American citizenship is toilet paper!


118 posted on 03/31/2016 1:31:21 PM PDT by GilGil
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To: x_plus_one

Sad to say but Obama has 14 Revolutionary War Patriot ancestors.
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name the suckers and we can check the DAR inventories etc for the them and you can provide the gen proofs...

Obama has at least one Loyalist ancestor and back in 2009 the Canadians were excited about that ...there are proofs..

BTW Ancestry .com is not acceptable by most reputable heritage societies for membership..


119 posted on 03/31/2016 1:32:10 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: x_plus_one

Sad to say but Obama has 14 Revolutionary War Patriot ancestors.
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However George Washington’s mother WAS a Loyalist...


120 posted on 03/31/2016 1:32:58 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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