Posted on 03/31/2016 2:40:50 PM PDT by DrewsDad
Fair enough question. I tend to consider a conservative as someone who tries to govern in a manner consistent with the original intent of the constitution. And you are right, most (if not all) of the names on that list are not conservative by that definition.
And so, when looking at who to vote for, I try to figure out who is closest to that and is still electable.
On a zero to one hundred scale, with 100 being totally conservative and zero being totally liberal, I am seeing not too many folks above the 50 mark.
Really difficult decision here.
First we have to stop immigration and the treaties (aka trade agreements, like TPP.) These issues are intertwined with jobs. These are the only two issues, because if they continue, there will be no United States of America (though with Cruz there may be a North American Union---regardless, either way we are reduced to 3rd world wages and living conditions.)
Ted's TPA is just the start for treaties/agreements which provide for NO BORDERS in the USA and UNLIMITED IMMIGRATION from other countries (no work visa required). Accepting that, while criticizing Trump in Wisconsin, is like choking on a gnat while getting run over by an elephant.
This campaign is about one thing:
GLOBALISM versus PATRIOTISM
As I posted above, I did a "thing" for about a year and a half on state budgets and revenues.
It's REALLY hard to know who's telling the truth when it comes to budget numbers, because the truth doesn't benefit either side of the Uniparty coin.
I went and checked Wisconsin's numbers with my expertise, but I can't tell you if either Trump or Walker has the right of it.
Did they hire Fields too?
I totally agree with you. That leaves us with the question if Trump is telling the truth, or is not really on our side. I do not see too much evidence that he is a truthful person. Exhibit A - his continuing lies about Walker and the budget.
I do freely admit that I love that Trump forced a significant change in the dialog. That was very healthy. Just don't know that I trust him.
So, the question to me really is, would I rather be shot or stabbed?
I was really hoping that Cruz and Trump would figure out a plan to move forward with some time of unity ticket and what I really want is Cruz for the supreme court, but I was informed yesterday by another Freeper that Cruz does not want that.
I voted for the Bushes 4 times and McCain, Dole and Romney once, I might be able to vote for Trump, but the only reason I would, would be for the Supreme Court pick...
Believe it or not, if Trump won and was a great President, I would love to eat crow on Free Republic and I would be the first in line to eat it...
We also need to do a better job at calling out these groups for thier hatred and intolerance. Demanding tolerance is in fact intolerant. They do get a bit pissy when you do that, though. Another favorite of mine with a lib in law is to point out the lack of diversity in same sex “marriage”. Having two moms or two dads is the opposite of diverse. True diversity is having one of each.
We tried that one before. The religion purist wouldn't have any of it.
In a strange way, I actually think Romney was more conservative than Trump. But that is because Trump doesn't really score on any of the conservative measures, while Romney sort of, barely did.
Of course, he had none of the fight and Trump does, which what the biggest part of his undoing.
Funny you should mention TPP there. You do realize your guy went out and campaigned rigorously for TPA before he flip flopped. He co-wrote and article for the WSJ with..., let me see, who was it? Oh yes, Congressman Ryan. Have you heard of Congressman Ryan? He’s the new Leftist speaker that Cruz teamed up with. Here: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/cruz-ryan-urge-senate-to-pass-fast-track/article/2563423
One might call Ted a militant RINO here if they weren’t biased.
Trump also gave $100s of thousands of dollars to Republicans, but that didn’t make him Conservative. Giving money to Democrats definitely makes him a Leftist though.
Ted and you folks, double-standards are your trade.
Trump said he would defund the abortion end of Planned Parenthood. I guess you missed that. Either that or you don’t mind shading the truth much.
You folks are stuck on stupid.
Quite a bit of polishing on your side too huh.
“A fraction of our taxes? Should the private sector control the Army, Navy and Air Force? Should the private sector run the Interstate Highway System?”
Is it that you don’t read very well, or did you deliberately misunderstand what I said?
At least a third of military spending is waste, fraud, and abuse. Another huge chunk supports a huge, counterproductive civilian bureaucracy. Add the Interstates to legitimate military spending and the other legitimate functions of government, and it amounts to a fraction of our taxes.
I suppose you expected to fail when it went into competition with the USPS.
Bingo. Not that we aren't already most of the way down that road, with "compassionate conservative" being a self-inflicted wound.
Cutting taxes without balancing the budget was irresponsible. Walker had a lot of support when he wanted to rein in public employees pay. So what happened with balancing the budget?
LOL!
Well, I don't consider voting for Cruz to being like unto being shot or stabbed, so I guess I've got a leg up on you if Cruz is the Republican nominee, since I'll vote for him. :)
I'm only in it for Trump destroying the Media.
Anything after that is gravy, since the Media DeathStar will no longer be able to take out any conservative at will.
Yes we pay taxes and support defense, roads, proper limited government, etc.
We do not support the excess regulations, the micro managing of business by bureaucrats that have no experience, wasteful spending at all levels, the high 33% government overhead, the dictator like heavy handed rules and handing out lucrative contracts to relatives and friends (and donors), the excessive tax rates, government picking winners and losers in the energy industry, the government takeover of the health industry and western lands, etc, etc.
We do not support the handouts that the greedy demand.
We do not support out of control spending. We support competition among the states.
You know what this means. Both Walker and Sowell are now RINOs aka GOPe while Trump’s conservative credentials remain untarnished.
What influence does giving money to that scumbag give you and why would you want it???
Cruz has done somethings that I am very troubled by and you list some of them, so point taken. But Cruz stood up against illegal immigration and held it up while Trump was meeting with Dreamers. I concede that Trump has changed on that (and I really do think he has), but to what degree? There is nothing in Trump's background or personality that tells me he won't sell conservatives out. I think he knows how to sing our song until elected...
I could be wrong, dead wrong, but I think I am right and I know Planned Parenthood is scum and so is Al Sharpton, I cannot get over Trump defending / funding them.
Real problem is the attack on Walker is a mistake in Wisconsin.
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