Posted on 04/01/2016 5:03:48 AM PDT by Bratch
Townhall reporter Guy Benson today admitted the Cruz campaign is stealing Trump delegates in states that Trump won.
The Ted Cruz campaign is running Cruz supporters as Trump delegates in states that Trump won. That way they can steal the nomination from Trump in Cleveland although they’ve only won a fraction of the states Trump has won.
Guy Benson: This has been percolating for several months. He has a very sharp legal team that know the rules inside and out in a way the Trump campaign clearly does not. It’s not just Louisiana. And it’s not just finagling to just get Rubio delegates or unbound delegates. What they’re also doing is getting people elected as Trump delegates who are not, in fact, Trump loyalists. So they would be bound to Donald Trump on the first ballot only. After which, although they are technically Trump delegates, they’ve been sort of put in place to jump.
And these are the same people who call Trump supporters ‘morons’ one day and beg them to support Ted Cruz the next.
CONFIRMED: Cruz Camp Stealing Trump Delegates at State Level
WOW!
If the nominee is some other new face they ain’t getting my vote
It was a plurality of delegates in 5 states to have your name entered into nomination at the convention; it was never a plurality of delegates to win the nomination.
I was a Cruz supporter, but the more I see this sort of thing happening, the more I support Trump. Cruz isn’t much better than one of the establishment guys.
Plus 1000. Same feeling, and disappointed to see what he really is after he appeared to be something different until we really got to see him in action outside the fishbowl called congress.
You think a liar and thief is smarter than a honest person?
No. It was the wisdom of the founding fathers. We live not in a democracy but a republic. The electoral college gives importance to voters in regions that would be otherwise overlooked and ignored
Learn some history
Cruz has not "hired" delegates. He is just familiar with how the delegates are selected, and is working hard to get as many of his supporters selected as delegates as he possibly can, looking forward to an open convention. Trump could do the same thing, but since he is "not a politician", he doesn't know the rules and is unprepared. He is getting out worked and out-organized in a perfectly legal and ethical manner.
To be truthful, when I see that the source is Gateway Pundit and it’s about the election... no thanks.
Sources who are caught continuously pushing what has been shown to be wrong lose credibility. There are people on FR that I just ignore because I know it’s going to be the same disproven drivel, every time.
I hate the establishment. What's the difference between Cruz using the establishment and their rules to win the deal, and Trump using the establishment and their rules to go bankrupt and still keep his billions?
It’s called bull$hit. They feed the cynicism we feel at their own peril.
Delegates are appointed in one of two ways. Either the candidate supplies the delegates, or the delegates are appointed by the party bosses. If the latter, the delegates will either vote the way the party bosses tell them to vote in the second round, or their party careers are over.
So the guy with 35%, (or 25, or 10, in a split field) is automatically awarded the nomination?
Dream on.
Do you really not understand the concept that a majority (over 50%) of the party's delegates need to be in support of a candidate? Why would a party nominate someone who can't even win a majority of the party's own representatives (and that's what delegates are, they are our representatives to the party's convention)?
If you don't like how delegates vote, then you need to choose delegates better. This takes time and organization. A party isn't something that comes together in 6 months.
That is a stupid comment - you apparently can’t address the facts laid out in the video.
after reading a bunch of comments i remain amazed at the ‘sophistication’ of Trumpeteers. The text of the article clearly states the’re negotiating over ballots other than the first. nobody is stealing anything. Its been known all along delegates are unbound after one ballot.
1237 isn’t an artificial threshold, it is 50%+ of the 2472 delegates. 1236 could mean that 2 candidates each have 1236, so you have to have the majority, not just a plurality.
I don’t know who makes these rules, but after the first ballot, someone has to change their allegiance to get to the 1237.
I think this is why campaigns ‘suspend’ instead of ‘quit’. If they have a few delegates, then they have a bit of power at the convention.
If trump is 5 short and carson has 7, one would think that trump could get there on ballot 2. But, lets face it. A lot of delegates aren’t there because their first ballot commitment was their own choice. Others may have become disillusioned by their first choice, or enamored with another.
No matter what happens, a whole lot of people are gonna be disappointed...upset...and they have a couple months to simmer down and band together to defeat liberalism...
Agreed. Go ahead f*cktards. Give it to someone like Cruz who will have far less the vote count than trump.
I’m done with this damn party. Trump exploded voter participation in the primaries. I won’t vote PERIOD if it’s handed to someone else that is NOT clearly the front runner. We will then see just how many of us show up in the general.
Time for a new party. Why wait? Cruz can not win against Hillary. He is small potatoes against her machine.
We vote for delegates in PA.
There is a selection process for delegates in each state. If you want loyal delegates, you need to have people in the party in each state who actually like you. That's the problem with trying a hostile takeover of a party.
He’s opened the eyes of many Republicans to the sliminess and utter rot of their own party.
Stalin said "It's who counts the votes that matters". The party has monopoly power through manipulating the rules. The center of influence manipulates the party rules, thus dictates the choice of whom is allowed to represent the citizens, thus removes the validity of the popular vote.
The citizens have no way to redress the lack of party influence, as it has become a closed club, with management dedicated to the power status quo. Only those who agree with the party, as constituted, can join the fraternity and hope to influence outcomes.
The only alternative is not to play their game, but to go a separate way, and form an alternative to their false choice.
What is an ‘unbound delegate’?
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc-quick-cuts/watch/jacob-soboroff-delegate-hunter-656436291787
MSNBC’s Jacob Soboroff takes a look at the importance of the unbound delegate and why they will matter heading into the conventions. Soboroff is heading across to country to talk to the delegates whose votes matter more than yours. Duration: 1:36
North Dakota draws Republican delegate war out of the shadows
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/north-dakota-draws-republican-delegate-war-out-the-shadows
But in a sign of the tightening race in which North Dakota’s 28 delegates might just make a difference, the three Republican campaigns have scrambled to mobilize here, screening and beginning outreach to likely delegates. In less than a month, North Dakota’s GOP went from struggling to find a keynote speaker for their state convention to juggling three: Sen. Ted Cruz will speak Saturday night, followed on Sunday by Dr. Ben Carson speaking for Donald Trump and former Sen. Gordon Humphrey on behalf of Gov. John Kasich.
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